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04-02-2007, 12:18 PM
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Of course he did have an excuse!!! The competition was better. I dont buy the shipping theory. It is just that when he ships he faces better opposition. 
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04-02-2007, 12:33 PM
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04-02-2007, 01:39 PM
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Sorry but I don't buy the stall walker excuses. Everytime the horse has left California he's run a very good six furlongs and then the lactic acid builds up and he stops running. If he didn't run a step like Discreet Cat in the World Cup then I'd by that there was something wrong with him. I'll leave it to everyone's imaginations as to why the lactic acid never builds up when he runs in California.
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04-02-2007, 02:07 PM
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He runs worse speed figs too. Sometimes when he is shipped horses that he beat easily in SoCal (like Brother Derek) beat him easily elsewhere. He does face tougher competition, but he also just runs poorly when he ships.
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04-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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he runs worse figures because he is over his head. especially against the best turf horses in the WORLD Heck, Perfect Drift beat him in Cali, so did Rock Hard Ten and Borrego. Bring the same horse he faced Saturday to California, let THEM ship to him, he still gets trounced.
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04-02-2007, 02:33 PM
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We already had this whole argument in the Dubai Duty Free thread, so I don't want to have it all again. But he is without question a different horse outside of Cali than he is in Cali. Your suggestion that shipping doesn't affect him at all is laughably incorrect, and anyone that has watched this horse run or knows how to read past performances knows that.
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04-02-2007, 02:40 PM
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The past two times this horse has run outside his home state, the preview articles in written by turf writers online have raved about how good he looks and how hes been training.. (while he was in Kentucky and Dubai). Then he goes out and doesnt run a lick. I dont think its from shipping or turf writers wouldnt be raving about how hes training in the other regions.
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04-02-2007, 02:33 PM
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Definately have to agree with this. GPK and I discussed this after the race. The horses bred oversea's are bred for the turf and bred for distance, they are just much better quality than the US turf horses. The results show in the Breeders Cup turf and Mile also (for the most part). Do you think its coincidence that the US horses won most of the Dirt races in Dubai? no, US horses were bred for the dirt and have better quality (again, for the most part). Even the well bred turf horses that were bred in the US are snatched up by coolmore and the shieks and sent overseas to race (again, there is always an exception). Lava Man does his job in Cali, and he should be praised for that, but who does he face? Nothing like he's faced in his last two very poor performances outside Cali. I just can't buy that shipping excuse. He's just not good enough.
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04-02-2007, 02:40 PM
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He isn't good enough to beat the top grass horses in the world no matter where the race was run. The fact that he was the favorite in this race was insane. He also couldn't have beaten Invasor and Bernardini in the BCC last year even if the race had been at one of "his" tracks. So the shipping does not "cause" him to lose.....but it does cause him to run worse than he typically does.
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04-02-2007, 03:08 PM
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