Hypo Older Horse Race

[avance2000]

another "who do you got?" hypothetical race.
this time.....no 3yos.
invasor's big score yesterday got me wondering, how does he match up with the other top older horses, FROM THIS DECADE?
so here is the race. 9 horse field going 10 furlongs on a fast but honest track at CD. taking into consideration only how they were in their best year as an older horse (i.e. tiznow's 3yo year doesn't count) who do you got? what is your exacta or tifecta wager?

1) pleasantly perfect
2) ghostzapper
3) saint liam
4) invasor
5) tiznow
6) aptitude
7) mineshaft
8) madaglia doro
9) roses in may

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by avance2000

another "who do you got?" hypothetical race.
this time.....no 3yos.
invasor's big score yesterday got me wondering, how does he match up with the other top older horses, FROM THIS DECADE?
so here is the race. 9 horse field going 10 furlongs on a fast but honest track at CD. taking into consideration only how they were in their best year as an older horse (i.e. tiznow's 3yo year doesn't count) who do you got?

1) pleasantly perfect
2) ghostzapper
3) saint liam
4) invasor
5) tiznow
6) aptitude
7) mineshaft
8) madaglia Doro
9) roses in may

I'd box the tri with Invasor, Ghostzapper, and Mineshaft. Would possibly toss Pleasantly Perfect in on the lower rungs of a few bets too because most of those horses are FAST FAST FAST and it could set up for him pretty well to snag a slice.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by avance2000

another "who do you got?" hypothetical race.
this time.....no 3yos.
invasor's big score yesterday got me wondering, how does he match up with the other top older horses, FROM THIS DECADE?
so here is the race. 9 horse field going 10 furlongs on a fast but honest track at CD. taking into consideration only how they were in their best year as an older horse (i.e. tiznow's 3yo year doesn't count) who do you got? what is your exacta or tifecta wager?

1) pleasantly perfect
2) ghostzapper
3) saint liam
4) invasor
5) tiznow
6) aptitude
7) mineshaft
8) madaglia doro
9) roses in may

almost impossible to seperate these, i'd have to go....with mineshaft ghostzapper and tiznow as the top 3 though

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Ghostzapper wins

I agree. I think he would make the lead pretty easily and I don't think they would ever get past him.
Second place.....could be P. Perfect, Mineshaft, St. Liam, or Invasor. I think I would use those 4 underneath Ghostzapper in exotics, but most of my money would go toward a straight win bet on Ghostzapper.

[Danzig]

of course if you set up a mythical series of racing--say 6 races, then it would come down to invasor and mineshaft--the others would miss some of them, so those two would win points-wise!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

of course if you set up a mythical series of racing--say 6 races, then it would come down to invasor and mineshaft--the others would miss some of them, so those two would win points-wise!

Not if one of those races was the BCC. Mineshaft wouldn't be able to make it to that one!

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I agree. I think he would make the lead pretty easily and I don't think they would ever get past him.
Second place.....could be P. Perfect, Mineshaft, St. Liam, or Invasor. I think I would use those 4 underneath Ghostzapper in exotics, but most of my money would go toward a straight win bet on Ghostzapper.

im not so sure that ghostzapper would get a easy lead with the likes of, madaglia doro, tiznow, roses in may, and mineshaft there would actually be alot of speed in this race, also saint liam is one who has tactical speed....

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

im not so sure that ghostzapper would get a easy lead with the likes of, madaglia doro, tiznow, roses in may, and mineshaft there would actually be alot of speed in this race, also saint liam is one who has tactical speed....

There would be speed yes....but not Ghostzapper speed. Certainly a lot of horses in this race could win it, but I think the most likely scenario is GZ wiring the field.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Not if one of those races was the BCC. Mineshaft wouldn't be able to make it to that one!

You're right he only raced 9 times in 9 months during 2003. 9 times in 9 months....When everyone and their mother avoided him. Then he gets an injury and misses the Classic....But I get it, we should diminish him for that.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You're right he only raced 9 times in 9 months during 2003. 9 times in 9 months....When everyone and their mother avoided him. Then he gets an injury and misses the Classic....But I get it, we should diminish him for that.

LOL. I knew you would like that one randall.
He was an outstanding horse and he would probably be my second choice in this race after Ghostzapper, although I would have trouble separating him from Invasor, St. Liam etc.
As for him missing the BCC, if they say he was injured, I have no reason to doubt them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Not if one of those races was the BCC. Mineshaft wouldn't be able to make it to that one!

you have a point there i suppose!!

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Zapper by 2 in sub 1:59 time

[PPerfectfan]

Of course I think PP will right be there. I think Zapper would get caught up on the front end with some of these really great horses, and it sets up for PP or maybe Mindshaft to get them at the wire. But then agian I am prejudiced.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan

Of course I think PP will right be there.

I agree. As I said in an earlier post, I would use him in exactas and trifectas under GZ. For a BCC/DWC winner P. Perfect never really seems to get the credit I think he deserves. I think he would be right there with Mineshaft, St. Liam, and Invasor.

[philcski]

ghostzapper by a nose over
invasor by 1 length over
tiznow by 1/2 length over
mineshaft 2 back to
pleasantly perfect 3 back to
saint liam by 1 over
madaglia doro by 2 over
roses in may by 2 over
aptitude

I'd say that's a pretty damned good field. Pretty scary that a horse as good as Aptitude would be the 9th choice of 9, and a dynamic Dubai WC winner in Roses in May would be the 7th choice, at best.

At 9F, MDO & RIM move up a bit and PP moves down a bit.

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I agree. As I said in an earlier post, I would use him in exactas and trifectas under GZ. For a BCC/DWC winner P. Perfect never really seems to get the credit I think he deserves. I think he would be right there with Mineshaft, St. Liam, and Invasor.

I think that if the jocks gave the right rides to the front runners, Zapper could be beat.<maybe just my dream> And your right P doesnt get the credit he deserves. And that is ashame, but I am hoping his babies really kick butt.