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Old 02-23-2007, 03:33 PM
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I admit I am anti-fur..but this really makes me sick.

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Old 02-23-2007, 03:36 PM
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Like anything else, what makes this worse is the method these animals are being put to death. I can't control what people do in China, but why on earth are people skinning animals alive. Again, it's gross no matter what and people should be aware of what they are buying, but give me a break---people who do this should realize the method they are using is torture.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:04 PM
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Like anything else, what makes this worse is the method these animals are being put to death. I can't control what people do in China, but why on earth are people skinning animals alive. Again, it's gross no matter what and people should be aware of what they are buying, but give me a break---people who do this should realize the method they are using is torture.
Chinchillas release their fur when they get scared (it's a defense mechanism) so in order to kill them, they're electrocuted via a probe jammed up their anus. Lovely, huh? And it takes a lot of chinchillas to make a coat.

Honestly, I don't see the ethical difference between wearing an animal and eating it, but fur grates on my nerves because it's simply a luxury item. As Bob Barker once said, why not just staple hundred dollar bills to a cloth coat? Same effect- look! I can afford to spend four figures on a piece of outerwear! Nyah nyah nyah!

That said, I once met a woman who had a 50-year-old fur that had belonged to her grandmother, and it was her winter coat. From an environmental standpoint, better to use an old fur coat that to buy a new one of any material. Uses fewer resources.

But then I'm a sucker for vintage stuff. Heck, my wedding dress was from the 1930's and my rings are from the 1920's. Reuse, reuse, reuse!
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:07 PM
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But you do see a difference in the way an animal is killed right?

Like I said I don't pass judgments on Asian cultures that eat dogs. I have problems with animals who are killed in an inhumane way.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:22 PM
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But you do see a difference in the way an animal is killed right?

Like I said I don't pass judgments on Asian cultures that eat dogs. I have problems with animals who are killed in an inhumane way.
Amen, Randall. That's my problem too.
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Old 02-24-2007, 08:16 AM
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But you do see a difference in the way an animal is killed right?

Like I said I don't pass judgments on Asian cultures that eat dogs. I have problems with animals who are killed in an inhumane way.
Yes, but I have a bigger problem with feed animals that are kept alive in inhumane ways, and that's a problem virtually every meat eater in the United States keeps directly supporting with their food dollars. Slaughter is a relatively short process, compared to spending an animal spending its entire life not being able to turn around or see the sunshine, jammed in with so many other animals that they are pumped full of antibiotics to keep them alive AND have their tails (pigs) or beaks (chickens) snipped off because the stress is so great they attack each other. Compared to the level of cruelty people across the nation buy every single day, fur is pretty small beans.

Which doesn't make me like fur any better, mind you. And I agree that inhumane slaughter is also wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:58 PM
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I admit I am anti-fur..but this really makes me sick.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles...23090509990001
Yup Pais,
This made me sick too.
btw...I used to trap when I was a kid. Some of my friends still do.
Seems that the area where I live is over run with beavers, and they're going for good prices.
To me, I'm just not into it anymore. I don't kill anything I'm not going to eat.
To take an animal's life just for their skin is wrong to me.
Don't get me wrong, if I come across a road killed mink and I need a tail for my trout flies (caddis patterns), I pull to the side of the road.
Better me than the crows.
But killing dogs? No! No! No!
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