Adagio claims? - Page 6

Scav · #**101** 03-15-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You can run the horse in the Claiming Crown races.

For what it's worth, I think someone's gonna claim him.

NT

He already qualifies for the Claiming Crown race. The turf race is 25k and below. The two 16k ones are dirt sprints.

This f'n horse is probably gonna be scratched.

Duvalier · #**102** 03-15-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

For what it's worth, I think someone's gonna claim him.

NT

Probably will...but the question is what do you think they get out of the horse? Eat him...their money back...a little profit...or a nice starter horse who's a moneymaker?

freddymo · #**103** 03-15-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

He already qualifies for the Claiming Crown race. The turf race is 25k and below. The two 16k ones are dirt sprints.

This f'n horse is probably gonna be scratched.

Scavs the horse is The Golden Man with a twist your best bet is to claim him for 16 wait 45 days till the lawn is opened at Penn and sart him there.

Scav · #**104** 03-15-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Scavs the horse is The Golden Man with a twist your best bet is to claim him for 16 wait 45 days till the lawn is opened at Penn and sart him there.

Argh!

I never said I wanted to claim any of these horses. I wouldn't claim a horse off of Dutrow with anyone's money.

There was a horse at Philly the other day that was a perfect claim but we didn't have time to turn it around because we saw it too late. He was an IN bred that broke his maiden against open company with all his conditions left and could have run against IN breds for big money and dominated. He got claimed by a Philly guy so maybe we still have a shot.

freddymo · #**105** 03-15-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Argh!

I never said I wanted to claim any of these horses. I wouldn't claim a horse off of Dutrow with anyone's money.

There was a horse at Philly the other day that was a perfect claim but we didn't have time to turn it around because we saw it too late. He was an IN bred that broke his maiden against open company with all his conditions left and could have run against IN breds for big money and dominated. He got claimed by a Philly guy so maybe we still have a shot.

Uhm Scavs the big dog is on a plane surely you can tell whomever to drop a ticket?

Scav · #**106** 03-15-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Uhm Scavs the big dog is on a plane surely you can tell whomever to drop a ticket?

It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others, and just for you Freddy, I try and find any PA bred that is racing out there.

freddymo · #**107** 03-15-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others

There are 50 decent Indy breds a year current..You missed? Come on Scavs that is all you..BTW they all have an issue

Scav · #**108** 03-15-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

There are 50 decent Indy breds a year current..You missed? Come on Scavs that is all you..BTW they all have an issue

Less then that..... But IN breds can have alot of issues and still romp. Ours can barely take turns correctly and she did great last year.

philcski · #**109** 03-15-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

There are 50 decent Indy breds a year current..You missed? Come on Scavs that is all you..BTW they all have an issue

Drop a zero and you're closer to accurate...

MisterB · #**110** 03-16-2010, 06:30 AM

Should be a scratch anyway. Coming back up north soon, and NJ lawn most likely. You don't come back and train a horse after a your best TOP speed figure if there is a major problem. IEAH can make more money in NJ with this horse.

parsixfarms · #**111** 03-16-2010, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

He is willing to lose a Graded charge for 15k... Considering how lucky you have to be to have a graded horse evolve,I think the horse while fast, has issues, which Dutrow has been treating. Trainers know Dutrow isnt going to toss an earner to the wind.

Adagio is not a graded stakes horse at this time, no more than Optimer was when he ran in the Manhattan. This time, it was Adagio who served as Court Vision's rabbit.

randallscott35 · #**112** 03-16-2010, 07:10 AM

So many Tim Tebows on this board it hurts.

herkhorse · #**113** 03-16-2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

So many Tim Tebows on this board it hurts.

Antitrust32 · #**114** 03-16-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

You can disagree with me a million times man, matter fact, you probably already do. As always, it is how you do it/say it.

The fact that you disagree with me is shocking anyways because last I remember, you followed Gulfstream and one specific guy (Rivelli) has claimed three horses off of Dutrow in what is almost the same situation, and others have claimed at that 25k level. More importantly and specific to these now two horses, at ARLINGTON, they will be able to compete at the 16k starter and 25-35k open claimers level, which are races they write and fill all the time, and Rivelli, Catalano, Miller, Canani and Stidham claim horses for those specific levels constantly

phystech · #**115** 03-16-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others, and just for you Freddy, I try and find any PA bred that is racing out there.

OMG - this is like deja'vu' all over again, especially with the IN bred......

I love claiming discussions, being a claiming owner - it's always an opportunity to learn something.

I'd love to hear more about the logic of claiming an IN-bred at Philly Park. Can you expand on the thought process, please?

GBBob · #**116** 03-16-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by phystech

OMG - this is like deja'vu' all over again, especially with the IN bred......

I love claiming discussions, being a claiming owner - it's always an opportunity to learn something.

I'd love to hear more about the logic of claiming an IN-bred at Philly Park. Can you expand on the thought process, please?

I really, really wanted to avoid getting involved in this thread, but I have to ask you Tom, why not? Indiana has a very solid state-bred program, with good additional bonus structures at the end of each meet. If there is a sound Indiana Bred who can run a 50-60 Beyer, why wouldn't you consider claiming him?

Dunbar · #**117** 03-16-2010, 09:27 AM

It's an interesting race. Dutrow is also the trainer of the 2nd fav, Formal King. That horse also appears to be a bit of a gift at the $15K claim price, since he's stepping down from $25K pricetag in which he finished 2nd of 11, 7 lengths in front of the rest of the field.

Dutrow was a past trainer (until claimed away in January) of the 3rd fav, Optimer. (Optimer was finally claimed for $25K after winning 4 straight $25K claimers.) In the race he was claimed, he finished 6th.

I like betting against dropdowns like Adagio and to a lesser extent, Formal King. Maybe Gaelic Storm?

--Dunbar

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**118** 03-16-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I really, really wanted to avoid getting involved in this thread, but I have to ask you Tom, why not? Indiana has a very solid state-bred program, with good additional bonus structures at the end of each meet. If there is a sound Indiana Bred who can run a 50-60 Beyer, why wouldn't you consider claiming him?

soon as you get out..they suck you back in...

GBBob · #**119** 03-16-2010, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

soon as you get out..they suck you back in...

I promise to stay focused grasshoppa'

SCUDSBROTHER · #**120** 03-16-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I really, really wanted to avoid getting involved in this thread, but I have to ask you Tom, why not? Indiana has a very solid state-bred program, with good additional bonus structures at the end of each meet. If there is a sound Indiana Bred who can run a 50-60 Beyer, why wouldn't you consider claiming him?

Isn't Double Entawndra an IN Bred?