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Old 04-17-2017, 12:14 PM
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Castellano commits to Gunnevara..
Hopefully he won't make the same mistake he did with Normandy Invasion and make his move WAY too soon. This colt has a shot with the right set up and ride.
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:33 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks that Irap may be getting good right on cue, for connections that know how to do this, and will be able to make his own trip?

That, to me, is the one that if I don't play, and it pays $56, will be saying out loud that I should have had it.

Am I crazy?
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:00 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks that Irap may be getting good right on cue, for connections that know how to do this, and will be able to make his own trip?

That, to me, is the one that if I don't play, and it pays $56, will be saying out loud that I should have had it.

Am I crazy?
Not at all...
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:32 AM
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Jon White Projected Kentucky Derby ML

1. Girvin (Joe Sharp/Mike Smith) 15-1
2. Classic Empire (Mark Casse/Julien Leparoux) 5-1**
3. Gormley (John Shirreffs/Victor Espinoza) 15-1
4. Irap (Doug O'Neill/Mario Guttierez) 20-1
5. Irish War Cry (Graham Motion/Rajiv Maragh) 6-1
6. Thunder Snow (Saeed bin Suroor/Christophe Soumillon) 20-1
7. Always Dreaming (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) 6-1
8. Gunnevera (Antonio Sano/Javier Castellano) 12-1
9. Practical Joke (Chad Brown/Joel Rosario) 15-1
10. J Boys Echo (Dale Romans/Robby Albarado) 20-1
11. State of Honor (Mark Casse/TBA) 30-1
12. Tapwrit (Todd Pletcher/Jose Ortiz) 20-1
13. Malagacy (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 20-1
14. Hence (Steve Asmussen/Alfredo Juarez Jr.) 20-1
15. Fast and Accurate (Mike Maker/Tyler Gafflione) 50-1
16. McCraken (Ian Wilkes/Brian Hernandez Jr.) 8-1
17. Battle of Midway (Jerry Hollendorfer/Corey Nakatani) 30-1
18. Patch (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 30-1
19. Battalion Runner (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 20-1
XX. Cloud Computing (Chad Brown/Irad Ortiz Jr.-Manny Franco) 20-1 ~ Unlikely
20. Untrapped (Steve Asmussen/Rafael Santana Jr.) 30-1
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21. Lookin at Lee (Steve Asmussen/Rafael Santana Jr.) 30-1
22. Sonneteer (Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux) 30-1
23. Royal Mo (John Shirreffs/Gary Stevens) 30-1
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:54 AM
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Jon White Projected Kentucky Derby ML

1. Girvin (Joe Sharp/Mike Smith) 15-1
2. Classic Empire (Mark Casse/Julien Leparoux) 5-1**
3. Gormley (John Shirreffs/Victor Espinoza) 15-1
4. Irap (Doug O'Neill/Mario Guttierez) 20-1
5. Irish War Cry (Graham Motion/Rajiv Maragh) 6-1
6. Thunder Snow (Saeed bin Suroor/Christophe Soumillon) 20-1
7. Always Dreaming (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) 6-1
8. Gunnevera (Antonio Sano/Javier Castellano) 12-1
9. Practical Joke (Chad Brown/Joel Rosario) 15-1
10. J Boys Echo (Dale Romans/Robby Albarado) 20-1
11. State of Honor (Mark Casse/TBA) 30-1
12. Conquest Mo Money (Miguel Hernandez/Jorge Carreno) 20-1
13. Tapwrit (Todd Pletcher/Jose Ortiz) 20-1
14. Malagacy (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 20-1
15. Hence (Steve Asmussen/Alfredo Juarez Jr.) 20-1
16. Fast and Accurate (Mike Maker/Tyler Gafflione) 50-1
17. McCraken (Ian Wilkes/Brian Hernandez Jr.) 8-1
18. Battle of Midway (Jerry Hollendorfer/Corey Nakatani) 30-1
19. Patch (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 30-1
20. Battalion Runner (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 20-1
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21. Cloud Computing (Chad Brown/Irad Ortiz Jr.-Manny Franco) 20-1
22. Untrapped (Steve Asmussen/Rafael Santana Jr.) 30-1
23. Lookin at Lee (Steve Asmussen/Rafael Santana Jr.) 30-1
24. Sonneteer (Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux) 30-1
25. Royal Mo (John Shirreffs/Gary Stevens) 30-1
Looks pretty spot-on.
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:25 AM
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Looks pretty spot-on.
132.5%

Some of these HAVE to be higher for the line to balance.

Moving IWC and Always Dreaming both to 8-1 makes it much more reasonable.

Here's my attempt:

Horse ML Odds
Girvin 12
Classic Empire 5
Gormley 20
Irap 20
Irish War Cry 6
Thunder Snow (IRE) 15
Always Dreaming 8
Gunnevera 15
Practical Joke 15
J Boys Echo 20
State of Honor 25
Conquest Mo Money 20
Tapwrit 25
Malagacy 40
Hence 20
Fast and Accurate 50
McCraken 8
Battle of Midway 25
Patch 30
Battalion Runner 25
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:32 AM
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Is Juarez for sure confirmed on Hence?

Geroux looks to be available and would fit him well.
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:41 PM
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Jose Lezcano gets call on State of Honor..
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:28 AM
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Jose Lezcano gets call on State of Honor..
Maann, this was the right horse for Paco Lopez
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:23 AM
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Here are foaling dates for most of the runners in the field:

5/6/17 - Kentucky Derby

1. Girvin (Joe Sharp/Mike Smith) March 31
2. Classic Empire (Mark Casse/Julien Leparoux) March 21
3. Gormley (John Shirreffs/Victor Espinoza) March 20
4. Irap (Doug O'Neill/Mario Guttierez) February 11
5. Irish War Cry (Graham Motion/Rajiv Maragh) May 2
6. Thunder Snow (Saeed bin Suroor/Christophe Soumillon) March 24
7. Always Dreaming (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) February 25
8. Gunnevera (Antonio Sano/Javier Castellano) February 28
9. Practical Joke (Chad Brown/Joel Rosario) April 15
10. J Boys Echo (Dale Romans/Robby Albarado) April 21
11. State of Honor (Mark Casse/Jose Lezcano) February 25
12. Tapwrit (Todd Pletcher/Jose Ortiz) March 28
--. Malagacy (Todd Pletcher/TBA) 50 ~ Unlikely
13. Hence (Steve Asmussen/Alfredo Juarez Jr.) March 28
14. Fast and Accurate (Mike Maker/Tyler Gafflione) ?
15. McCraken (Ian Wilkes/Brian Hernandez Jr.) April 13
16. Battle of Midway (Jerry Hollendorfer/Corey Nakatani) January 30
17. Patch (Todd Pletcher/TBA) March 18
18. Battalion Runner (Todd Pletcher/TBA) March 15
--. Cloud Computing (Chad Brown) 40 ~ Unlikely
19. Untrapped (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana Jr.) ?
20. Lookin at Lee (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana Jr.) ?
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21. Sonneteer (Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux) March 1
22. Royal Mo (John Shirreffs/Gary Stevens) February 14
23. Local Hero (Steve Asmussen) March 21
24. Master Plan (Todd Pletcher) ?
25. Blueridge Traveler (Ken McPeek) ?
26. Petrov (Ron Moquett) March 26
27. Lancaster Bomber (Aiden O'Brien) ?
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Flavien Prat picks up Battle of Midway mount
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:22 PM
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Flavien Prat picks up Battle of Midway mount
guess the new connections wanted a "top" name

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ar-don-alberto

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Battle of Midway, runner-up in the Santa Anita Derby (G1) and 17th on the Kentucky Derby leaderboard, has been purchased in partnership by WinStar Farm and Don Alberto Stable from Rick Porter's Fox Hill Farm.

The Smart Strike colt will remain in training with Jerry Hollendorfer as he prepares for a start in the May 6 Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (G1). Flavien Prat has the Derby mount.

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Old 04-22-2017, 05:10 AM
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Here are foaling dates for most of the runners in the field:

5/6/17 - Kentucky Derby

14. Fast and Accurate (Mike Maker/Tyler Gafflione) ?
19. Untrapped (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana Jr.) ?
20. Lookin at Lee (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana Jr.) ?
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24. Master Plan (Todd Pletcher) ?
25. Blueridge Traveler (Ken McPeek) ?
27. Lancaster Bomber (Aiden O'Brien) ?
Here ya go...

14. Fast and Accurate (March 27)
19. Untrapped (April 19)
20. Lookin at Lee (March 7)
24. Master Plan (Feb 14)
25. Blueridge Traveler (Feb 21)
27. Lancaster Bomber (March 14)
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:06 PM
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Reach the World euthanized after workout sesamoid fracture. Brutal.
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Reach the World euthanized after workout sesamoid fracture. Brutal.
Damn...poor boy, rest in peace youngster
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Reach the World euthanized after workout sesamoid fracture. Brutal.
Reach the World breaks down in work, euthanized at 3
By Steve Andersen

http://www.drf.com/news/reach-world-...k-euthanized-3

ARCADIA, Calif. – Reach the World, fourth in the Grade 1 Santa Anita Derby on April 8, was euthanized on Saturday after suffering severe injuries to his right foreleg in a workout at Santa Anita.

Reach the World was nearing the end of a team exercise when he was stricken. Jockey Martin Garcia was able to pull up Reach the World, who was vanned off. Garcia was not injured.

Trained by Bob Baffert for Don Alberto Stable, Reach the World was considered a candidate for the Belmont Stakes on June 10.

Reach the World had his stakes debut in the Santa Anita Derby. By Tapit, Reach the World was bred by Don Alberto Stable and had one win in four starts, a maiden race at 1 1/16 miles on Feb. 4 in his second start.

Reach the World was second to Battle of Midway in an optional claimer on March 9 before finishing 1 1/2 lengths behind Gormley in the $1 million Santa Anita Derby.
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Robby out of the Derby with broken ankle. New jock for J Boys Echo (Romans)
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In the DRF:
Shirreffs said that Royal Mo wouldn't be on the plane to Kentucky (with Gormley) because he needed four to exit to get in........he didn't think that would happen.
Of course two took a hike soon after,so I wonder if there's a plan B.

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Old 04-24-2017, 12:32 PM
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Florent Geroux to ride Hence in Kentucky Derby, per trainer Steve Asmussen http://live.drf.com/nuggets/36317
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Old 04-29-2017, 01:59 PM
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Default After Battalion Runner, Malagacy, Lanerie, Sanatana decisions..

5/6/17 - Kentucky Derby

1. Girvin (Joe Sharp/Mike Smith) ~ Probable
2. Classic Empire (Mark Casse/Julien Leparoux)
3. Gormley (John Shirreffs/Victor Espinoza)
4. Irap (Doug O'Neill/Mario Guttierez)
5. Irish War Cry (Graham Motion/Rajiv Maragh)
6. Thunder Snow (Saeed bin Suroor/Christophe Soumillon)
7. Always Dreaming (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
8. Gunnevera (Antonio Sano/Javier Castellano)
9. Practical Joke (Chad Brown/Joel Rosario)
10. J Boys Echo (Dale Romans/Luis Saez)
11. State of Honor (Mark Casse/Jose Lezcano)
12. Tapwrit (Todd Pletcher/Jose Ortiz)
13. Hence (Steve Asmussen/Florent Geroux)
14. Fast and Accurate (Mike Maker/TBA-Tyler Gaffalione*)
15. McCraken (Ian Wilkes/Brian Hernandez Jr.)
16. Battle of Midway (Jerry Hollendorfer/Flavian Prat)
17. Patch (Todd Pletcher/TBA-Tyler Gaffalione*)
18. Untrapped (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana Jr.)
19. Lookin at Lee (Steve Asmussen/Corey Lanerie)
20. Sonneteer (Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux)
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21. Royal Mo (John Shirreffs/Gary Stevens) 30
22. Local Hero (Steve Asmussen) 30
23. Master Plan (Todd Pletcher) 20
24. Petrov (Ron Moquett) 13
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