Discreet Cat's BC Plans Announced

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

this horse was a tik off the track record and was never asked, damn thats is fast! and ran that race off a 6 month layoff!

The horse that Discreet Cat defeated last time out in the allowance race was beaten today in the same allowance condition at Belmont Park.
I'm not so sure I'd say he would win by ten lengths, these are better than Contessa's horse that he beat last out.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Its like stepping into the ring with TYSON in his heyday!

[blackthroatedwind]

As usual on the internet there is a substantial chasm between Discreet Cat's actual ability and his perceived ability.

I wonder if it's the anonymity factor.

[repent]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

As usual on the internet there is a substantial chasm between Discreet Cat's actual ability and his perceived ability.

I wonder if it's the anonymity factor.

no,
its the fact that he beat Invasor without being asked at all.
in fact, he has beaten every horse he has ever faced without being asked.

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[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by repent

no,
its the fact that he beat Invasor without being asked at all.
in fact, he has beaten every horse he has ever faced without being asked.

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Testimony ( another Darley/Godolphin horse ) finished second in that same race. Have you noticed how he has run in his two starts in America?

And, by the way, Discreet Cat was certainly " asked " in his race in Saratoga.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Testimony ( another Darley/Godolphin horse ) finished second in that same race. Have you noticed how he has run in his two starts in America?

And, by the way, Discreet Cat was certainly " asked " in his race in Saratoga.

Yea Right you must not of watched the race or read the inview with gomez, from this point on your opinon is of no value to me

1 8 DISCREET CAT (USA) 3 / 55kgs S bin Suroor UAE F Dettori
2 10 TESTIMONY (USA) 3 / 55kgs S bin Suroor UAE G Gomez 6
3 9 FLAMME DE PASSION (JPN) 3 / 55kgs K Sumii Japan Y Take 0.25
4 4 INVASOR (ARG) 3 / 59kgs K McLaughlin UAE R Hills 0.75
5 1 DOMINGUIN (PER) 3 / 59kgs D Zanelli USA J Velazquez 3.75
6 7 SIMPATICO BRIBON (CHI) 3 / 59kgs I Jory Saudi Arabia J Murtagh 1.5
7 2 GABURIN (AUS) 3 / 59kgs H Mori Japan O Peslier 1.75
8 13 WHERE'S THAT TIGER (USA)
3 / 55kgs M de Kock South Africa W Marwing 3.25
9 6 MY ROYAL CAPTAIN (NZ) 3 / 59kgs L Laxon Singapore E Ahern 1.5
10 3 GOLD FOR SALE (ARG) 3 / 59kgs I Jory Saudi Arabia M Kinane 3.75
11 12 WELL ARMED (USA) 3 / 55kgs C Brittain Great Britain R Moore 3.5
12 5 JACKSON (BRZ) 3 / 59kgs A Cintra Pereira Brazil M Almeida 10
13 11 UNIFICATION (CAN) 3 / 55kgs I Mohammed UAE K McEvoy 5.75

Winning Time: 1:48:59
3 wide the whole race and was never asked and beat 12 other horses form other countries not a bunch of dubai bum horses he beat a world class field of 3 yo's in hand

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And, by the way, Discreet Cat was certainly " asked " in his race in Saratoga.

Really? It sure as hell didn't look like it.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm sure BTW is upset that you don't care for his opinion. Question is who is valueing your opinion? With the exception of Invasor, who I think was not the same Invasor we have seen, who was he beating in that race?

OK and the stopwatch at Saratoga lies! I don't answer questions from stupid people they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experiance.

“He actually surprised me with the move he made,” Gomez said. “He did everything on his own.”

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Really? It sure as hell didn't look like it.

He wasn't in a full out drive by any stretch of the imagination but he was ridden out. Could he have gone faster? Maybe but if so probably not a great deal faster.

Look, he's a supremely talented horse, no doubt about it, but if you didn't see his pps, or the pps of those he beat, you would have a much different idea of this horse from reading the kind of accolades he gathers around here. I have found that letting horses prove themselves on the racetrack is the most telling thing.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Honestly, I find it humorous that a lot of people on here have a real hard time believing Bernardini is the real deal, but have no problem annointing DC as unbeatable.

Bernardini is the real deal,
but Discreet Cat is an absolute once in a lifetime freak.
how are you going to fault a horse that does not lose?


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[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Honestly, I find it humorous that a lot of people on here have a real hard time believing Bernardini is the real deal, but have no problem annointing DC as unbeatable.

I think they're both ridiculously fast, two of the best 3-year-olds in a LONG time, and discrediting either one is ludicrous.

[repent]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Agreed he has not lost yet, but I will wait to give him his once in a lifetime status until I see a little more. He has been sensational so far, no doubt. Has done everything asked of him, easily, but I just would like to see them place him a bit more aggressive. He could have run in a number of races, and have chosen not to, and in my opinion are taking the easy road.

yeah,
Godolphin does the aggressive thing in Europe,
and stays somewhat conservative here.
have yet to figure it out yet completely.
whatever they do, they always hide behind the term "do whatever is best for the horse".
whatever the hell that means.
if anyone was really concerned about what was best for the horse, they would just run around in fields somewhere on the Irish countryside.

I would never tell another man what to do with his horse(they can shoot it in the head for all I care), but I just hate ppl hiding behind that damn phrase.


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[repent]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm really not trying to discredit DC, but everyone is so ga ga over his allowance race, and it was very impressive, it was no doubt. But Bernardini has been as impressive, while winning grade 1's. So I just find it comical that there are so many more Bernardini naysayers than DC.

well,
some ppl are always going to hate the fact that Bernardini won the Preakness(which is nothing more than the race where Barbaro was injured to some people).
and also there is the fact that Bernardini has been beaten, although very early on before he knew what he was doing.

bottom line is that neither horse has done anything wrong and both are extremely fast.

2 legitimate superstars.


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[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Cause of course I know nothing


Dutrow is sending a string of horse to Cali to train at hollywood

some of you have no clue about peoples knowledge that just makes me laugh that some people are so caught up in themselves that if they would stop and listen for a minute they might learn a little bit and not sound ignorant

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree completely. I have never understood it. From his comeback effort, and the fact that he handily defeated one of our best handicap horses, you would think they would at least take a crack at the Classic.

Ehh, I don't know about that one. Call me naive, but I think if he had made The Dwyer like they originally wanted him to, we would've seen him in the BCC. But off one seven-furlong start and one one-turn mile start against strictly 3-year-olds, that's a lot to ask of a horse to run him at ten furlongs against a full field in the toughest dirt race on earth. Even a horse this good.

[tycharles01]

Does anyone know if they will have tri betting for the Jerome???

Should be a nice betting race after the 1/5 u get on Discreet Cat

2nd and 3rd could be 8/1 or higher

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Does anyone know if they will have tri betting for the Jerome???

Should be a nice betting race after the 1/5 u get on Discreet Cat

2nd and 3rd could be 8/1 or higher

He'll be 1/9 at best.

And yes, there is trifecta wagering at the moment, but I'm guessing someone will scratch and make it an even worse betting race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Following the preliminaries to Discreet Cat's guaranteed victory in today's Jerome Handicap at Belmont over such luminaries as Nar and Quietly Go Goldolphin Stables, in their usually " throw caution to the wind " style, have announced an ambitious assault on this year's BC. They have contacted BC officials, who were more than willing to reshuffle the sequence of races in order to accomodate the man who filled the coffers of all breeders, and subsequently will be running Discreet Cat in the BC Sprint ( now the first race ), the BC Mile ( now the 4th race ) and either the BC Turf or the BC Classic.

While this aggressive schedule may seem unrealistic to some it is hardly surprising for both a horse so obviously better than any horse that ever lived and for as daring a stable as Godolphin. While they recognized that Discreet Cat would be making as many starts on November 4th as many of their charges make in a lifetime the Sheik was quick to point out " Special horses demand special situations ". In this time of shortened careers and careful placing this writer is proud to see the Sheik stepping out from the crowd.

Garrett Gomez, Discreet Cat's rider, was quick to point out that the BC Sprint was really going to take no more effort than Discreet Cat's normal prerace warmup. Thus he will be well warmed up for the BC Mile, and as Gomez said, we all know he is equally good on all surfaces. Thus both races will be mere cakewalks for this proven superstar.

While Godolphin is expected to then hold out for the Classic, there are some that believe Discreet Cat will run in the BC Turf simply to keep their options open for then returning in the Classic. As for those that think they will skip the Classic just to allow their other star, Bernardini, win that race, the Sheik scoffed at that notion. " Why would we allow an inferior beast such as Bernardini to steal the limelight from his obviously superior stablemate? "

I, for one, can hardly wait.

[GenuineRisk]

Hilarious. I may print that out to hang up near my desk.