Doug O'Neill says "I'll Have Another" -- Barred from BC '14

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Asmussen must have been horrified to learn that the horse he claimed had raced with a forbidden substance.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Would be nice if they don't allow a O'Neill by Proxy trained horse to run.

they should perhaps add a rule that a horse in the barn of a trainer under suspension can't enter under another's name unless he's been moved for at least 14 days-or something along those lines.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they should perhaps add a rule that a horse in the barn of a trainer under suspension can't enter under another's name unless he's been moved for at least 14 days-or something along those lines.

Yes that would be a good start. Until they start putting a lot of pressure on the owners, these trainers will continue.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba

Yes that would be a good start. Until they start putting a lot of pressure on the owners, these trainers will continue.

except it really doesn't matter the more I think about it.

trainers have friends in high places, the owners. along with others in the industry. so, when someone breaks a rule, they all defend said trainer. he would never, he's a nice guy, etc. so, the supposed powers that be really don't do much, because they don't want the owners to leave the game, thus taking away their money. so, they don't do anything.

so, why bother with the testing and other protocols? just say, forget it. because they spend time and money, and pretend to want to change things....but only some really want to change it. plenty of others want to win at all costs, and they have the money and power.
but hey, let's all bash on Lasix, the poster boy of drugs...while turning a blind eye to horses mysteriously developing medical issues, dying in a trainers barn at a high rate, etc. nothing to see there, move along.

[ontheoutside]

i understand barring the trainer
but what about the owners
kind of not fair to them
can they switch toanother trainer so they can run?

[Danzig]

Not fair to them? They hired him, knowing his record.

[casp0555]

DON statement from DON Racing website.

http://www.dougoneillracing.com/state.html

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ontheoutside

i understand barring the trainer
but what about the owners
kind of not fair to them
can they switch toanother trainer so they can run?

They won't need to switch trainers. In most of these cases, the horses just run in the assistant trainer's name. I'm sure that is what will happen here.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

They won't need to switch trainers. In most of these cases, the horses just run in the assistant trainer's name. I'm sure that is what will happen here.

I think I spoke too soon. In this particular case, the horses will not be allowed to simply run in the assistant's name, at least not in New York. The question is whether other states will reciprocate on that specific part of the ruling.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...in-california/

[pointman]

O'Neill suspended again for probationary violation.

http://www.drf.com/news/probation-vi...her-suspension

Apparently, the CHRB doesn't understand what a "stay" means despite the fact that they originally gave one to O'Neill.

But, you know, it must have been the hay that was in the stall before his horse was put there.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pointman

O'Neill suspended again for probationary violation.

http://www.drf.com/news/probation-vi...her-suspension

Apparently, the CHRB doesn't understand what a "stay" means despite the fact that they originally gave one to O'Neill.

They stayed 90 of the stay. You can't make this stuff up. And on top of that some it (19 days) will run concurrently with New York suspension.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

They stayed 90 of the stay. You can't make this stuff up. And on top of that some it (19 days) will run concurrently with New York suspension.

I thought that States honor each others suspensions. If so, why is he not suspended for the entire term of each suspension in both jurisdictions?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

They stayed 90 of the stay. You can't make this stuff up. And on top of that some it (19 days) will run concurrently with New York suspension.

Its awesome isnt it.

Racing.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pointman

I thought that States honor each others suspensions. If so, why is he not suspended for the entire term of each suspension in both jurisdictions?

Because it is horse racing? I can't answer, I just shake my head.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

I thought that States honor each others suspensions. If so, why is he not suspended for the entire term of each suspension in both jurisdictions?

That's how it used to be. Seems tho that asmussen served two separate sentences simultaneously a few years ago.
Like I said, they say they want a clean sport.....but we all know actions speak louder than words,don't they?

[Danzig]

The CHRB and O'Neill entered into a stipulated agreement, under which the controversial trainer is suspended for 135 days—90 days of which are stayed—and placed on probation for 18 months for violation of a board decision May 24, 2012.

and why did they stay 90 days?! it's not as tho he's been clean as a whistle until now.
absolutely ridiculous.

[Pants II]

O'Neill ran into PVal after the hearing...

[casp0555]

most recent statement from DON posted on Team O'Neill Racing website

http://www.dougoneillracing.com/state2.html

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by casp0555

most recent statement from DON posted on Team O'Neill Racing website

http://www.dougoneillracing.com/state2.html

That letter sums up everything that is wrong...OUR TEAM. There is no punishment in reality, just business as usual with O'Neill getting some vacation time.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

That letter sums up everything that is wrong...OUR TEAM. There is no punishment in reality, just business as usual with O'Neill getting some vacation time.

A paid one at that!