Spectacular Bid

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's funny.....I hadn't gotten to your post when I wrote mine. General Assembly was pretty strong at that point....I imagine he was favored ( though for some reason I feel like he might have been coming off a close loss to Tim the Tiger probably in the Cowden ).

Once again....these horses all ran before horses bounced.

Until my first trip to the Spa for A & A's Travers, I had little interest in racing. I loved Saratoga so much I returned the next weekend for the Hopeful. General Assembly won. I think Tim was second and Fuzzbuster third. BTW, you are right about the Cowdin. GA went off at 1/10. With my one month of experience in horse racing, I bet $100 to win on GA. I credit him with teaching me an early lesson about horses that pay a dime on the dollar. They DO lose. In the Champagne, I think GA was 1/2 to Bid's 2.40/1.

[FATPIANO]

Originally Posted by philcski

Incredible, thanks for posting. It's a very close determination between him and Sec for best of all time to me. Really depends on how you weigh the TC win versus a 4yo season.

I'd love to know who was favored over him in the Champagne off that ridiculous Atlantic City win.

I believe the favorite was Genral Assembly with Tim The Tiger second choice

[slotdirt]

Smarten was a very underrated race horse, and turned out to be a pretty fantastic sire.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

I believe the favorite was Genral Assembly with Tim The Tiger second choice

And if I'm not mistaken, Cordero replace Darrel McHargue on General Assembly.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Looking at the 70's the best I could - I have to think for sure he's the top rated horse since 1970.

He had that sprinter/miler pedigree and was basically a machine between the distances of 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs.

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How you get sprinter/miler out of Bold Bidder/Promised Land is beyond me. Bold Bidder won 3 major stakes races at 10f - Charles H. Strub (NTR), Monmouth H, and Hawthorne Gold Cup - to go with his mile wins (Jerome H and Washington Park H). Promised Land's biggest wins were the Pimlico Special (at 3, 1 3/16 in the fall), the Lawrence Realization (the New York St. Leger, at 1 5/8 miles), and the San Juan Capistrano (1 3/4 miles); he is a strong influence for stamina. Yes, Bid's dam's only stakes placing was in a 6f race (in which she lost to Flying Paster's dam Procne), but that didn't mean sprinting ability was all she inherited. Moreover, Bid was inbred 3 x 3 to To Market, a multiple major SW at 10f and a son of Jockey Club Gold Cup winner Market Wise.

It is interesting that Bid's second dam was a twin; she was Stop on Red and her twin sister was Go on Green. GoG ran 32 times and won 7, while SoR ran 51 times and also won 7 times.

By the way, Bid's sons at stud in Australia/NZ did well enough to still be showing up in pedigrees of top horses. Bite the Bullet sired multiple G1 winner Sniper's Bullet (a 7yo still running), Spectacular Spy and Spectacular Love sired G1 winners, and Spectacularphantom is damsire of current Kiwi star Katie Lee.