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Easy Goer |
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23 | 31.08% |
Sunday Silence |
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51 | 68.92% |
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll |
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The KD, Preakness, and BC Classic are widely regarded as 3 of the most important races of the year. Who cares about track records when you win those? |
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Stuff like this might drive the price up! ![]() It has a spot reserved on my wall above the Zenyatta 2009 Breeders Cup finish line photo autographed by Mike Smith. And below the Genuine Risk Kentucky Derby finish line photo autographed by Jacinto Vasquez. And "back and to the left" of my "Kentucky Tavern 1986 Derby Winner 'Ferdinand' mirror." I bet on Easy Goer in The Derby and The Preakness. But I pulled like heck for Sunday Silence and bet a little on him at Belmont as he went for The Triple Crown. I may not have won any of my wagers, but in the spirit of Lou Gehrig I feel like a winner. In my case, just for paying attention at the time, and making a point to be there. |
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![]() Easy Goer wins the Preakness if he doesn't try to rip SS's snout off during their stretch battle.
That series very easily should have been 2-2. |
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It took more time than I expected, and the video was not ideal, but in the final strides, you are right! Thanks, I had never noticed before. |
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![]() this is hilarious. now beating horses head to head somehow does not count. easy goer is better/faster than sunday silence even though he could not beat him on the track. i still remember the races, the preakness was the best. sunday silence was all guts and easy goer was used to jogging home. when they line the horse up against 5 scrubs and of course he can win by 20 lenghths. it reminds me of the horse that many on here claim to be so great. she wins by daylight against scrubs but against equals its a whole new ball game. thats how it goes in sports, if the competition is inferior it makes you look better than you really are. if you can't beat the best 3 out of 4 times, you probably are not better......wow.....logic. excuses do not count and winning against "set up" fields is no equalizer. why don't we replay the races and bet on them? i'll give you easy goer everytime.......lol
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i do believe in those matchups that citation was giving quite a few pounds to his opponent. certainly can't say that about ss/eg. it's probably the main reason citation gets respect, even tho he lost those. comparing citation/noor to sunday/easy is apples vs oranges.
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![]() easy goer was better , pat day cost him the preakness and the bcc
sunday silence beat him at the derby that's it peroid |
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![]() And there are those out there who still think Alydar was better than Affirmed.
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![]() This is a great web site and I make sure to visit it everyday, but the "New York as the center of the universe" mentality does not escape it (which is fine by me -- these New York homers are pretty knowledgeable and a lot of what I know I've picked up reading their debates with each other). That being said, Easy Goer was THEIR BOY. Great pedigree, good looking, sky's-the-limit potential... he was the next Great One. The thought of Sunday Silence (from California, which takes him maybe a notch higher than your average dog in NY's eyes) being better than their boy makes any self-respecting fan with an East Coast bias vomit in his mouth a little bit. Regardless of whether Sunday Silence took three of four from Easy Goer, or three hundred of four hundred, they've both got their fans who will not back down. And that's the way it should be, really.
If they raced 100 times at different distances with random conditions, it probably would be closer to 50/50 and not 75/25 (wins for SS, that is), but we've only got what happened. Besides, looking at their racing careers, I don't see how Easy Goer was any better over the long haul. It's not like Sunday Silence was a flash in the pan while Easy Goer went on to be Horse of the Year three years running. SS won 9 or 14 with 7 major stakes wins and never finished below second. EG took 14 of 20 with 10 or 11 major wins. Hell, even in retirement, Easy Goer had some nice offspring, but Sunday Silence became the leading sire in Japan for over a decade (Deep Impact)! Just the way I see it. Of course, a lot of people around here have forgotten more about this sport than I know, so take it for what it's worth. |
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What if Sunday Silence wasn't shut off by Easy Goer at the 3/8s pole when making an advance on Houston? What if Pat Day didn't make that early run that had him on the lead before the 1/4 pole? |
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![]() Cali runner still gets dissed even after proving his superiority on the racetrack
Amazing… |
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![]() I became a racing fan in 1978, I saw Seattle Slew, Affirmed and The Bid, after The Bid retired, I was looking for the next great one. In 1988 Easy Goer came along and dominated his competition. He was named Champion 2yr old. I was not a fan, He was not as good as The Bid, That is how I measure Greatness. In The Derby I was rooting for Sunday Silence to beat Easy Goer. Then it was on to Pimlico, and that is when I became a fan of Easy Goer. He was a fighter. The Belmont proved that Easy Goer was the better of the two. That summer at Saratoga Easy Goer won The Travers AND The Whitney (beating elders), That Fall, he won The Woodward AND The JCGP (beating elders again). Come on, name me one other horse that won the Belmont, Travers, Whitney, Woodward and JCGP. If not for a sloppy Derby and a bad Pat Day ride at Pimlico, He would have been a Triple Crown winner, and would have been regarded as one of The true great ones of all time.
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A similar difference occurs in the REAL Derby at Epsom. The track is up-hill, then sharply downhill around a turn, then up-hill to the finish, with the track sloped from side-to-side (a camber, they call it) in the final stretch. Big, long-striding horses that can handle flatter tracks with easier turns often come a-cropper at Epsom. |
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![]() IMO Sunday and Easy can be compared to Affirmed and Alydar. The '89 Preakness is the perfect example. It is similar to the '78 Belmont. The reason Sunday is #31 and Easy is #34 is the will to win. In the Preakness the fact that Day gave him one of many sh/tty rides is of little consequence. Easy could run all day as shown in his Belmont and JCGC wins.. The two were hooked for a 1/4 mile in the Preakness and Sunday just would not him him go by. That is the difference between the two...just like A & A....a greater will to win.
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![]() Wow!!! I have an '84 version of Kentucky Tavern with Swale. A friend who owned a liquor store back then gave it to me. Kind of chintzy bar wall type stuff, but I love it.
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![]() Yeah ....almost looked like "The Savage" part two.
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By comparison, Sunday Silence and Easy Goer's most important races were run against each other, and SS got the best of it.
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