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Easy Goer 23 31.08%
Sunday Silence 51 68.92%
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:42 PM
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can you imagine anyone losing the first 2 legs of the triple crown and still running in the belmont these days?

when was the last time this happened?
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:45 PM
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can you imagine anyone losing the first 2 legs of the triple crown and still running in the belmont these days?

when was the last time this happened?
Probably when it involved the 'house' horse running in the house's biggest race of the year.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:16 PM
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can you imagine anyone losing the first 2 legs of the triple crown and still running in the belmont these days?

when was the last time this happened?
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:25 PM
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i should rephrase the question to exclude d. wayne lukas horses.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:10 PM
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Great horses handle sloppy tracks. They do not need to carry their preferred track condition with them.

Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer 3 times fair and square. Easy Goer cannot say the same.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:37 AM
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Great horses handle sloppy tracks. They do not need to carry their preferred track condition with them.

Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer 3 times fair and square. Easy Goer cannot say the same.
Wow, I'm even happier I bought that Preakness Sunday Silence-Easy Goer finish line photo with autographs by Pat Valenzuela and Pat Day this week.

Stuff like this might drive the price up!

......not selling though.

It has a spot reserved on my wall above the Zenyatta 2009 Breeders Cup finish line photo autographed by Mike Smith. And below the Genuine Risk Kentucky Derby finish line photo autographed by Jacinto Vasquez.

And "back and to the left" of my "Kentucky Tavern 1986 Derby Winner 'Ferdinand' mirror."


I bet on Easy Goer in The Derby and The Preakness. But I pulled like heck for Sunday Silence and bet a little on him at Belmont as he went for The Triple Crown.

I may not have won any of my wagers, but in the spirit of Lou Gehrig I feel like a winner.

In my case, just for paying attention at the time, and making a point to be there.
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Old 05-28-2010, 01:23 AM
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Easy Goer wins the Preakness if he doesn't try to rip SS's snout off during their stretch battle.

That series very easily should have been 2-2.
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Old 05-28-2010, 01:31 AM
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Easy Goer wins the Preakness if he doesn't try to rip SS's snout off during their stretch battle.

That series very easily should have been 2-2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tw09xHXUhI


It took more time than I expected, and the video was not ideal, but in the final strides, you are right!

Thanks, I had never noticed before.
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:53 AM
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Easy Goer wins the Preakness if he doesn't try to rip SS's snout off during their stretch battle.

That series very easily should have been 2-2.
There's a lot of what-ifs in that Preakness.

What if Sunday Silence wasn't shut off by Easy Goer at the 3/8s pole when making an advance on Houston?

What if Pat Day didn't make that early run that had him on the lead before the 1/4 pole?
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Easy Goer wins the Preakness if he doesn't try to rip SS's snout off during their stretch battle.

That series very easily should have been 2-2.
Yeah ....almost looked like "The Savage" part two.
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And "back and to the left" of my "Kentucky Tavern 1986 Derby Winner 'Ferdinand' mirror."
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Wow!!! I have an '84 version of Kentucky Tavern with Swale. A friend who owned a liquor store back then gave it to me. Kind of chintzy bar wall type stuff, but I love it.
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:37 AM
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Wow!!! I have an '84 version of Kentucky Tavern with Swale. A friend who owned a liquor store back then gave it to me. Kind of chintzy bar wall type stuff, but I love it.

Chinty or not, I love bar wall stuff. Ferdinand's Kentucky Tavern Mirror is hung in the same grouping as the Kentucky Tavern Mirrors of Unbridled and Winning Colors.


All are to the left of Jean Cruguet autographed Belmont finish line photo with him aboard Seattle Slew. Slew's Preakness winner's circle photo is there, too. As is an obscure shot from the infield of Slew winning the Kentucky Derby with The Twin Spires in the background.

And to the right of the Slew photographs is a collage of real $2 tickets on Seattle Slew to win each race of his Triple Crown.




Changing paces, I was living in South Carolina when Woody Stephens with his South Carolina connections was dealing publicly with the passing of Swale.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:42 PM
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One thing and one thing only....Pat "wait all" Day! Nuff said.
I think it was cool the first year at stud at Claiborne Farm they had those two great horses as stall mates.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:28 PM
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A closer examination of Sunday Silence's body of work is in order.

While Easy Goer was spectacular in his Derby preps, as he beat up on horses like Rock Point and Diamond Donnie, Sunday Silence was facing much better horses in SoCal. Among his victims in both the Santa Anita Derby and San Felipe were Flying Continental (who went on to win the Jockey Club Gold Cup and Strub) and Music Merci (who won the Del Mar Futurity and went on to win the Illinois Derby, San Rafael and Malibu). Beaten in the Santa Anita Derby were Houston and Norfolk winner Hawkster, who would later make a name for himself on the grass.

As for the remainder of his career after the Triple Crown. Sunday Silence was not disgraced in his 3/4s of a length loss to Prized in the Swaps, as Prized would go on to win the Molson Million and BC Turf later that year. I will note that Easy Goer dusted Prized in the JCGC. Sunday Silence beat Dispersal (who won the Woodward the next year) and Easy Goer's barnmate Awe Inspiring in the Super Derby. Sunday Silence would close out his career with a head loss to Criminal Type in the Hollywood Gold Cup; finishing behind Sunday Silence that day were Opening Verse (BC Mile and Oaklawn Hcp), Ruhlman (Santa Anita Hcp), and Mi Selecto (Meadowlands Cup and Gulfstream Park Hcp).
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:20 AM
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i should rephrase the question to exclude d. wayne lukas horses.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:23 AM
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Cali runner still gets dissed even after proving his superiority on the racetrack

Amazing…
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:59 AM
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I became a racing fan in 1978, I saw Seattle Slew, Affirmed and The Bid, after The Bid retired, I was looking for the next great one. In 1988 Easy Goer came along and dominated his competition. He was named Champion 2yr old. I was not a fan, He was not as good as The Bid, That is how I measure Greatness. In The Derby I was rooting for Sunday Silence to beat Easy Goer. Then it was on to Pimlico, and that is when I became a fan of Easy Goer. He was a fighter. The Belmont proved that Easy Goer was the better of the two. That summer at Saratoga Easy Goer won The Travers AND The Whitney (beating elders), That Fall, he won The Woodward AND The JCGP (beating elders again). Come on, name me one other horse that won the Belmont, Travers, Whitney, Woodward and JCGP. If not for a sloppy Derby and a bad Pat Day ride at Pimlico, He would have been a Triple Crown winner, and would have been regarded as one of The true great ones of all time.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:40 PM
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IMO Sunday and Easy can be compared to Affirmed and Alydar. The '89 Preakness is the perfect example. It is similar to the '78 Belmont. The reason Sunday is #31 and Easy is #34 is the will to win. In the Preakness the fact that Day gave him one of many sh/tty rides is of little consequence. Easy could run all day as shown in his Belmont and JCGC wins.. The two were hooked for a 1/4 mile in the Preakness and Sunday just would not him him go by. That is the difference between the two...just like A & A....a greater will to win.
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IMO Sunday and Easy can be compared to Affirmed and Alydar. The '89 Preakness is the perfect example. It is similar to the '78 Belmont. The reason Sunday is #31 and Easy is #34 is the will to win. In the Preakness the fact that Day gave him one of many sh/tty rides is of little consequence. Easy could run all day as shown in his Belmont and JCGC wins.. The two were hooked for a 1/4 mile in the Preakness and Sunday just would not him him go by. That is the difference between the two...just like A & A....a greater will to win.


pat day's ride cost his horse the race plain and simple , he made the move to the top and instead of allowing easy goer to go on and extend his lead he choked the horse back and allowed SS to catch him , if he had just let him go just like turcotte did with secretariat then SS would never have caught him. ending up pinned in down on the rail , day cleary was bested by p val that day , they have a show called trips and traps and if it was around in '89 , the mods would have pointed all of this out to show that SS would be a trap in the belmont , day did everything wrong a rider could do in that race , p val did everything right sure eneough at the belmont sunday silence is left in the dust and beaten handily

take a look at easy goer's stride in the belmont coming down the stretch , then take a look at his stride in the stretch at pimlico , at best easy goer was running at 80% when he was pinned in on the rail
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