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Old 05-18-2009, 02:19 PM
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Dominguez for sure; GG would 'over power' him.
Agreed,Big Time!Gomez would beat the sh.it out of him.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:21 PM
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Lumpkins is available for the mount on MTB in the Belmont.
I have to get up off the floor from laughing so hard!!! Is he still at Mountaineer??
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:24 PM
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He's only ridden 14 so far this year .. they think he's Kenny Powers down there but he's just keeping himself fresh and primed for the big comeback.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:28 PM
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Lumpkins? I remember him! Wasn't he always getting in trouble?

Where's his next comeback going to happen? Someplace even worse than MNR?
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:28 PM
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I'm waiting for him to make his triumphant return to Canterbury
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:45 PM
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People forget the greatness that was 'the Lumpy' back in the day.

7 straight years of profitability in route races from '96-to-'02..

'96: 45-for-226 ($2.38 ROI)
'97: 55-for-239 ($2.19 ROI)
'98: 56-for-232 ($2.31 ROI)
'99: 72-for-269 ($2.52 ROI)
'00: 67-for-314 ($2.16 ROI)
'01: 128-for-498 ($2.29 ROI)
'02: 134-for-530 ($2.09 ROI)

Combined 7 year total in routes from '96 through '02: 557-for-2,308 (24% wins) $2.25 ROI

He was actually profitable with all of his mounts in 2008 ... 35-for-247 with a $2.01 ROI

So even when he's in outer space he can still ride.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:54 PM
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Gomez once went 23-for-53 with a $2.43 ROI at Sunland Park when he rode part of a meet in 2002.

That was before his great comeback. I assume he becomes the favorite to get the mount if RA goes in the Belmont ... if only for his Sunland connection.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:56 PM
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If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

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I'd like to see Casey Lambert back on him...Since BTW thinks it doesn't matter.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:21 PM
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Honestly MTB hasn't had who I would regard as a top rider on him yet, Chantal, Lambert, Borel, Smith. If Wooley makes the right choice the horse is bound to get a jockey upgrade in the Belmont.
after looking back and listening to bailey and stevens, ther wasnt another jockey that would have found the inside move that Borel made in the derby. Noone would have scraped the paint like Calvin. It gets old all this stuff about luck. He does this consistsntly, so it must be more than luck.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:24 PM
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Speaking of Maragh, I still can't get the image out of my head of maybe 2 or 3years ago on Derby Day when I bet Al Basha in a comeback race I believe, and Rajiv Maragh is riding him, he suddenly spurts to a 3-length lead or so in midstretch, and I think I am home free, and then whoops, all of a sudden Maragh just falls off...
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:39 PM
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I think P. Val is available
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:44 PM
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Agreed,Big Time!Gomez would beat the sh.it out of him.

You mean like he did to Scrappy T? Oh wait, that was Dominguez.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:14 PM
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You make it sound like guys like Gomez, Dominguez, Prado (whoever you are considering top tier jockeys) are incapable of giving a bum ride. Whoever gets him next probably won't have to worry about navigating around 12 or 18 other horses, the way Borel and Smith did. But reguardless, he seems to be a nice horse (I'll admit I was wrong and thought that he would be off the board at Pimlico) and reguardless who is on him I think he has a good shot in NY if he runs.
Riding at Belmont is alot different than riding at other tracks, being that it is a 1 1/2 oval. Regardless of what I believe, given that N.Y boasts a very deep Jockey colony I have no trouble asserting that Mine That Bird will not be hurt by Smith's departure. I see the obvious names have been mentioned already but you could name any of the top current 9 in the standings and you would probably gain something on the Jockey change. Borel is good at CD, but did anyone watch him at Oaklawn? Personally I would love to see Lezcano get the chance on the big stage, his style would suit MTB's preferred running style.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:19 PM
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I would use the Mig - Richard Miglore
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:21 PM
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Unless Gomez is getting the mount back on Dunkirk, the Belmont winner, I bet he is trying hard to ride Mine That Bird......as are about ten riders.

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ?
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:29 PM
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they ought to call edgar.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:31 PM
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Speaking of Maragh, I still can't get the image out of my head of maybe 2 or 3years ago on Derby Day when I bet Al Basha in a comeback race I believe, and Rajiv Maragh is riding him, he suddenly spurts to a 3-length lead or so in midstretch, and I think I am home free, and then whoops, all of a sudden Maragh just falls off...
I remember that race,it got ugly real quick when he fell off.
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WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ?
Yeah, it's very un BTW like to say something like that so far in advance of race day.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:25 PM
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You need a rider that can reach into his bag of tricks! Kent Desormeaux.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:39 PM
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You need a rider that can reach into his bag of tricks! Kent Desormeaux.
ugh

sometimes his bag of tricks makes you wonder what he's smoking.
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