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PPerfectfan 05-18-2009 12:08 PM

Mike Smith takes off 'Bird for Belmont
 
Smith takes off Mine That Bird for Belmont
By Jay Privman

http://www.drf.com/news/article/103872.html

Mike Smith, who rode Mine That Bird to a second-place finish in the Preakness Stakes on Saturday, will not ride him in the June 6 Belmont Stakes, choosing instead to ride Madeo in the Grade 1 Whittingham Stakes at Hollywood Park that day.

Brad Pegram, Smith's agent, informed Chip Woolley, the trainer of Mine That Bird, on Monday morning. The decision opens the possibility that Calvin Borel, who rode Mine That Bird to a victory in the Kentucky Derby before opting to ride the filly Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness, can get back on Mine That Bird for the Belmont, if Rachel Alexandra does not run.

"We made this commitment to Madeo before the Preakness, before the filly was sold and Calvin took off Mine That Bird to ride the filly and we got a chance to ride Mine That Bird in the Preakness," Pegram said Monday.

SniperSB23 05-18-2009 12:16 PM

I guess he really is the Rodney Dangerfield of horse racing.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I guess he really is the Rodney Dangerfield of horse racing.


Mike or Mine That Bird?

I guess you could say both.

Antitrust32 05-18-2009 12:26 PM

poor horse!! He runs so well and nobody wants to stay on him! ;)

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 12:29 PM

Unless Gomez is getting the mount back on Dunkirk, the Belmont winner, I bet he is trying hard to ride Mine That Bird......as are about ten riders.

CSC 05-18-2009 12:45 PM

Honestly MTB hasn't had who I would regard as a top rider on him yet, Chantal, Lambert, Borel, Smith. If Wooley makes the right choice the horse is bound to get a jockey upgrade in the Belmont.

Scav 05-18-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Unless Gomez is getting the mount back on Dunkirk, the Belmont winner, I bet he is trying hard to ride Mine That Bird......as are about ten riders.

He really did run a huge race in the Preakness, completely shocking but nice to see that maybe he isn't the worst Derby winner evah...

MaTH716 05-18-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Honestly MTB hasn't had who I would regard as a top rider on him yet, Chantal, Lambert, Borel, Smith. If Wooley makes the right choice the horse is bound to get a jockey upgrade in the Belmont.

He won the Kentucky Derby and ran 2nd in the Preakness to a supieror horse. I really don't know what you are expecting from a jockey upgrade.

CSC 05-18-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
He won the Kentucky Derby and ran 2nd in the Preakness to a supieror horse. I really don't know what you are expecting from a jockey upgrade.

They were good rides, it would be less than credible to even infer they weren't, however in the long run the chances of good rides with these 2 diminishes IMO.

NTamm1215 05-18-2009 01:20 PM

If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

NT

the_fat_man 05-18-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

NT

Dominguez for sure; GG would 'over power' him.

kgar311 05-18-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

NT

If they were smart like they were in the derby they would put up a local jock that knows the track and when to put the trigger. Why doesnt Rajiv get much press around here I think he would be a nice fit for the horse

MaTH716 05-18-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
They were good rides, it would be less than credible to even infer they weren't, however in the long run the chances of good rides diminishes IMO.

You make it sound like guys like Gomez, Dominguez, Prado (whoever you are considering top tier jockeys) are incapable of giving a bum ride. Whoever gets him next probably won't have to worry about navigating around 12 or 18 other horses, the way Borel and Smith did. But reguardless, he seems to be a nice horse (I'll admit I was wrong and thought that he would be off the board at Pimlico) and reguardless who is on him I think he has a good shot in NY if he runs.

NTamm1215 05-18-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
If they were smart like they were in the derby they would put up a local jock that knows the track and when to put the trigger. Why doesnt Rajiv get much press around here I think he would be a nice fit for the horse

Dominguez and Gomez are Belmont regulars now and both excel, at least in my opinion, with horses coming from off the pace.

Rajiv Maragh is steadily improving but is not near the caliber of RD or GG.

NT

pointman 05-18-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
If they were smart like they were in the derby they would put up a local jock that knows the track and when to put the trigger. Why doesnt Rajiv get much press around here I think he would be a nice fit for the horse

The top jocks are local to Belmont. Wooley will have no problem getting a top jock to ride.

10 pnt move up 05-18-2009 01:57 PM

Going out on a limb here but I bet the Moss's and Shirreffs told Mike he is riding the horse at HP.

Travis Stone 05-18-2009 02:00 PM

I would like to see Borel back on... cool story to win the "Jockey Triple Crown" on two different horses.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Going out on a limb here but I bet the Moss's and Shirreffs told Mike he is riding the horse at HP.


Are you coupling that with the sun sets in the west exacta for $2.10?

10 pnt move up 05-18-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Are you coupling that with the sun sets in the west exacta for $2.10?

I bet on this board I could have gotten even money.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-18-2009 02:08 PM

Lumpkins is available for the mount on MTB in the Belmont.


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