Notonthesamepage: 115 BSF

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by smuthg

Did Lost in the Fog put up those kinda of numbers? I know he had some big early 3YO BSF's

On December 26 of his 2yo season, LitF got a 109 at Turf Paradise in his 2nd career start. He went 21.80 44.73 107.26 113.55 while winning by 14.75 lengths.
His highest beyer was a 114 at BM on Oct.1 of his 3yo season. The race before the BC Sprint.

[Athletics005]

I believe he got 116 twice. Once in the Carry Back at Calder and the other in the BM Speed Handicap not that theres a big difference.

[Linny]

High figs tend to be more attainable for young horses going short than long. (Most 3yo's are simply not being asked for top efforts going long in Jan.)
I think Chuck is right about 'capping the trainer. When was the last time Ward won a graded stake at a route? I see this horse as a sprinter and possibly a good one, IF he stays together.

If you are looking for your Derby horse though, look again, he ain't it!

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Athletics005

I believe he got 116 twice. Once in the Carry Back at Calder and the other in the BM Speed Handicap not that theres a big difference.

No, I looked it up. The 114 was in the speed handicap at BM

[Athletics005]

Ya he got a 116 in the Carry Back and 114 in Bay Meadows Speed Handicap.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by Linny

High figs tend to be more attainable for young horses going short than long. (Most 3yo's are simply not being asked for top efforts going long in Jan.)
I think Chuck is right about 'capping the trainer. When was the last time Ward won a graded stake at a route? I see this horse as a sprinter and possibly a good one, IF he stays together.

If you are looking for your Derby horse though, look again, he ain't it!

Beautiful Pleasure and Monarchos .
Notonthesamepage is by Catienus and he sires durable runners .

[letswastemoney]

Next Triple Crown winner

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think the trainers history is more relevant. Ward has had a number of horses making debuts or coming off of layoffs that run out of their mind that never get back to that race. Not a criticism but his horses rarely have long campaigns.

good point. Also, and i don't want to sound naive, but i've always thought of Ward as speed trainer. He's always been good w/ young horses going short, but i've never really seen him with any older horses /routers, not to say that he hasn't/doesn't train them, i just haven't seen any. I could be wrong, but thats just the notion i get when i think of Wesley Ward

-bt-

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by -BT-

good point. Also, and i don't want to sound naive, but i've always thought of Ward as speed trainer. He's always been good w/ young horses going short, but i've never really seen him with any older horses /routers, not to say that he hasn't/doesn't train them, i just haven't seen any. I could be wrong, but thats just the notion i get when i think of Wesley Ward

-bt-

There is a horse called Silver Bayer that sounds like typical W. Ward. Smoke Glacken yearling for $90K at Sept KEE Sale in '07. Won going 4F at GP I believe first or second time out in May of LY, then not a whole lot since ( I know..PPs would help, but don't have them).

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think the trainers history is more relevant. Ward has had a number of horses making debuts or coming off of layoffs that run out of their mind that never get back to that race. Not a criticism but his horses rarely have long campaigns.

That too

And it's a relevant criticism. I don't know why anyone would ever send him horses unless you wanted to win your first start at Kee going 4.5F and never see your horse again.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Beautiful Pleasure and Monarchos .
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That was John Ward, not Wesley.

[sumitas]

I think I know that . It was Ward that trained them . Usually you see the name Ward, John Ward comes to mind . Or Beaver's dad .

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

If you knew it why did you say Beautiful Pleasure and Monarchos?

Because he has that wonderful alligator disease

[sumitas]

I had no clue Wesley Ward was the Ward cited as trainer for the horse named in the thread topic . I just asssumed Ward was John Ward . Blame it on Cannon Shell .