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[hockey2315]

That's a fair point - it's note entirely factual but I know what you're saying. . . He never ran 113s for Cerin, though.

[10 pnt move up]

Student Council is a dog, and if not for polytrack at del mar would be running in 3x, I cant take that horse serious.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's a fair point - it's note entirely factual but I know what you're saying. . . He never ran 113s for Cerin, though.

I missed that he had him for the initial Hawthorne race. Even then, the pace was a crawl and he overcame it. It was really not possible to run fast with that setup.

As for Cerin, he isn't even close to Asmussen.

It is widely known that horses tend to run bigger numbers on dirt when running well then other surfaces. The horse ran around 102 on synthetics, so is it really that far fetched to think he could run around 110 on dirt?

I'm not saying he did or didn't. I haven't looked at the card. I'm just saying you have to look at these things in depth and not base opinions on general impressions.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Student Council is a dog.

I'm not so sure about that anymore. His last three races on the dirt in this country have been the Hawthorne Gold Cup, the Pim Special (both of which he won), and yesterday's race. All three of those were decent races by him (at least by the standards of dirt routers over the last couple of years).
Clearly nobody is going to be confusing him with Ghostzapper any time soon, but compared to the current dirt routers, he isn't terrible, and his two dirt races this year have been as good or better than anything he has ever done on synthetics.