No Claim today.. Both scratched!

[phystech]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Any thoughts given to trying to find a Cali horse that hasn't taken to the synthetics and might benefit from a move back to the dirt?

I had to laugh when I read this because I am so guilty of always thinking the grass is greener when you claim somewhere other than where you are running.

I used to drive my trainer crazy trying to get her to go to other racetracks to claim something. We'd always end up claiming at home, and somehow made it work.....

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by phystech

I had to laugh when I read this because I am so guilty of always thinking the grass is greener when you claim somewhere other than where you are running.

I used to drive my trainer crazy trying to get her to go to other racetracks to claim something. We'd always end up claiming at home, and somehow made it work.....

Well this isn't as much the grass is greener as it is the dirt aint dirt. They have none of it to run on out west and there are surely horses out there that are best on that surface and are being dipped into claimers cause of their inability to run well on turf or synthetics.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Well this isn't as much the grass is greener as it is the dirt aint dirt. They have none of it to run on out west and there are surely horses out there that are best on that surface and are being dipped into claimers cause of their inability to run well on turf or synthetics.

The trick is being able to identify ones that just cant handle the non dirt tracks from the ones that are simply tailing off.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The trick is being able to identify ones that just cant handle the non dirt tracks from the ones that are simply tailing off.

not to mention that there is plenty of fake dirt around here too (with TP, KEE ARL and PID) and probably more on the way.....

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The trick is being able to identify ones that just cant handle the non dirt tracks from the ones that are simply tailing off.

Yeah, certainly wouldn't be an easy angle and you'd need some bankroll for it to work cause it is inevitable you'll wind up with a few that did just tail off.

[phystech]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yeah, certainly wouldn't be an easy angle and you'd need some bankroll for it to work cause it is inevitable you'll wind up with a few that did just tail off.

All angles are tough to make work and, certainly, having a bankroll makes it easier to eat the ones that don't work. A bankroll is always a good thing. Walking a tightrope with a little money is a real pressure cooker and it tends to make you look for the "now" horse that you can run back and get a couple checks with - the old no-brainer.

But it sure is fun when you have some money behind you, to be able to look at the not-so-obvious horse that's with a low % trainer, who is riding low % jocks, the keeps getting troubled trips, and has some conditions to work with to get you out.

Claiming is a lot or work and a lot of fun and I admire those that can do it successfully.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by phystech

A bankroll is always a good thing.

Truer words were never spoken

[AeWingnut]

bloodlines help but what kinda of action does it take to run on fake dirt
and what kinda feet do you want?

I don't have a clue but I would think the paddle hoof would help keep a horse on top of that stuff

personally I love turf racing. Seems like turf horses have longer careers
maybe not

So... any high action paddle hooved girls with a big butt we can afford

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Not a bad idea but not practical on our budget

C'mon, Chuck, you could claim the next Lava Man. Although I suppose on our budget, he'd have to be the next Lava Boy....

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

If I had to guess...the ones he's looking at in the 5th are - Chippewa Court & Classic Emily
and in the 9th - Mithaal & Liquoreux. Cocesse Chief also looks interesting. Apt to Be is a "hard hitter" but 10 is too old!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

If I had to guess...the ones he's looking at in the 5th are - Chippewa Court & Classic Emily
and in the 9th - Mithaal & Liquoreux. Cocesse Chief also looks interesting. Apt to Be is a "hard hitter" but 10 is too old!

Doubt we do anything today...Friday has many appealing horses...

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Doubt we do anything today...Friday has many appealing horses...

Chuck,

Quick question...

Is claiming off Mcl win, returning for reduced tag something to generally avoid, or purely depends on situation?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Chuck,

Quick question...

Is claiming off Mcl win, returning for reduced tag something to generally avoid, or purely depends on situation?

claiming or betting?

I guess it depends on the trainer. Most maiden claiming horses are not worth the tag put on them and realistically need to "drop" in price because the competition at the same price in open claimers i s much tougher. Conditional claimers are a different story all together. I assume you are referring to the 11 horse in todays 5th? (she is scratched)

Trainers that have a lot of horses and owners that will let them do it will drop a horse off a maiden claiming win in order to try to win another race with a weak horse. It may not be a sign of impending physical doom but an attempt to get as much as you can while the horse is in good form.

[pmacdaddy]

Thanks. Thinking about it from claiming standpoint, not necessarily betting. That #11 was the one that caught my eye as interesting.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Doubt we do anything today...Friday has many appealing horses...

Would that include the 2nd race; 25k maiden claimers going long?