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Old 05-02-2007, 10:02 AM
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I guess the question most have then is why was the blog pulled from the site subsequently following questioning of his information?
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I guess the question most have then is why was the blog pulled from the site subsequently following questioning of his information?
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Seems like he could have just corrected or clarified the posted information, then carry on business as usual, right?
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This wasn't a question of 'accuracy'.. He did not write as his opinion that the horse was 'stiff and sore.'

He quoted a private clocker's comments saying that, and properly attributed the quote as that of the private clocker.

He wasn't offering the opinion as his own. That difference seems to be going largely ignored by those that have been very rough on him.
you may like that guy and have thought he was good on your show...but the fact is he printed erroneous information and should have to answer to that...instead CD and YOU seem more inclined to pretend that nothing ever happened and that he should just have it all go away...

that's bullsh*t....just as YOU learned last year with showing up...if you f*ck up you have to face the music...explain yourself and eat some crow.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:11 AM
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I guess the question most have then is why was the blog pulled from the site subsequently following questioning of his information?
Press office's decision after Larry Jones heard about it and was upset that the clocker would say that.
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Press office's decision after Larry Jones heard about it and was upset that the clocker would say that.
Hilarious.
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Fair enough.
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Press office's decision after Larry Jones heard about it and was upset that the clocker would say that.
Can we hang the clocker?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:23 AM
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Can we hang the clocker?
There'd be a long, long line of volunteers of the guy in question...
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This wasn't a question of 'accuracy'.. He did not write as his opinion that the horse was 'stiff and sore.'

He quoted a private clocker's comments saying that, and properly attributed the quote as that of the private clocker.

He wasn't offering the opinion as his own. That difference seems to be going largely ignored by those that have been very rough on him.
In the version I saw, the quote was NOT attributed; they may have amended it prior to taking it down. There's nothing wrong with him quoting a clocker if he did attribute it.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:27 AM
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This wasn't a question of 'accuracy'.. He did not write as his opinion that the horse was 'stiff and sore.'

He quoted a private clocker's comments saying that, and properly attributed the quote as that of the private clocker.

He wasn't offering the opinion as his own. That difference seems to be going largely ignored by those that have been very rough on him.
The questioning didn't come from what was said, it came from the fact that he stated that the colt was sore at CHURCHILL DOWNS, when in fact, the work was at Keeneland! Then he states that Curlin however was handling the CD surface great, when Curlin hadn't even worked at CD yet...

When he was questioned about this by people posting comments on his blog, he got nasty... that was unnecessary. He should have corrected his original comment, apologized and moved on... but nope.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:27 AM
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There'd be a long, long line of volunteers of the guy in question...

That makes him a brilliant choice then to have quoted about something that extreme.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:28 AM
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In the version I saw, the quote was NOT attributed; they may have amended it prior to taking it down. There's nothing wrong with him quoting a clocker if he did attribute it.
You're correct... the quote was NOT attributed. I only wish I had copied and pasted the original article.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:34 AM
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I guess the question most have then is why was the blog pulled from the site subsequently following questioning of his information?

My guess, and it's just that, a guess is that KY derby.com prefered that only "happy happy, joy joy, flowers and puppy dog stoies" be posted on the blog. They prefer to see any "negative" stories (who doesn't look good, what trainer seems concerned etc) be dug up and presented by outside talent. They want their "in house" on site guy to tell the happy side of the runup to the Derby. Even though he's a blogger, he's an employee (salaried or contractually) of the Downs and they may feel that they have an image to present.
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I'm sure Justin has learned a valuable lesson. It is doubtful he'll implicitly trust second hand information from less than legitimate sources ever again. He'll probably also learn to fact check before he writes.

By the way, Street Sense didn't look so good this morning working over the track at Ellis Park. At least that's what I've heard.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:55 AM
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I'm sure Justin has learned a valuable lesson. It is doubtful he'll implicitly trust second hand information from less than legitimate sources ever again. He'll probably also learn to fact check before he writes.

By the way, Street Sense didn't look so good this morning working over the track at Ellis Park. At least that's what I've heard.
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I agree on Justin... lesson learned for him.
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The questioning didn't come from what was said, it came from the fact that he stated that the colt was sore at CHURCHILL DOWNS, when in fact, the work was at Keeneland! Then he states that Curlin however was handling the CD surface great, when Curlin hadn't even worked at CD yet...

When he was questioned about this by people posting comments on his blog, he got nasty... that was unnecessary. He should have corrected his original comment, apologized and moved on... but nope.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:36 AM
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He sounds perfect for DerbyTrail.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:38 AM
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He sounds perfect for DerbyTrail.
Good point! Let's all welcome Justin Dew to DT. He'll fit right in.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:40 AM
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Well at the very least we know he is a man. Because we never admit a mistake.
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