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hockey2315 05-01-2007 05:17 PM

Justin Dew on ATRAB right now. . .
 
Did anyone call him out on the Hard Spun thing?

ateamstupid 05-01-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Did anyone call him out on the Hard Spun thing?

I sure as hell hope so.

randallscott35 05-01-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Did anyone call him out on the Hard Spun thing?

I am not familiar with this. Can you explain?

hockey2315 05-01-2007 05:23 PM

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12523

ateamstupid 05-01-2007 05:24 PM

Dew is commenting on the works he's seen.. Hopefully he's actually seen these ones.

randallscott35 05-01-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Thank you

Antitrust32 05-01-2007 06:27 PM

no one called him out... i was hoping that it would have happened. It would have made for good radio and he deserved it for blogging that nonsense.

With that said, he was a good guest for 45 minutes today and complemented Steve very well on the air.

They also had on the President of HBO Sports, Ross Greenberg (who JJ kept calling Goldberg unfortunetly)

Bogey 05-01-2007 07:41 PM

I wouldn't put much stock and what J.D. has to say. His claim to fame is that he hit the last two exactas in Derby. For all I know he might be PointGiven 1985. I wouldn't consider him a creditable handicapper after what I read in this post.

Bogey 05-01-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
no one called him out... i was hoping that it would have happened. It would have made for good radio and he deserved it for blogging that nonsense.

With that said, he was a good guest for 45 minutes today and complemented Steve very well on the air.

They also had on the President of HBO Sports, Ross Greenberg (who JJ kept calling Goldberg unfortunetly)



I've worked with JJ since 2004 and he's a personal friend. That's just typical JJ. I'm sure if you asked him tomorrow he might pronounce his name the same. JJ is just a classic.

kenny p 05-01-2007 08:14 PM

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I've worked with JJ since 2004 and he's a personal friend. That's just typical JJ. I'm sure if you asked him tomorrow he might pronounce his name the same. JJ is just a classic.

I love when he says Golfstream.

Bogey 05-01-2007 08:17 PM

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I love when he says Golfstream.

That's a good one. He's got the best one liners in the game, bar none.

philcski 05-01-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey
That's a good one. He's got the best one liners in the game, bar none.

He's awesome. Hilarious.

Kasept 05-01-2007 09:21 PM

Justin Dew was on the show at my invitation. What was in his blog was the quote he received from a private clocker and he wrote it as such. How people interpreted the clocker's quote is not his 'fault'. He's a young guy who has worked hard all winter/spring following the Trail for kentuckyderby.com and has done a nice job. He didn't deserve to be villified for how he presented the information, and I was happy to have him on the show to give him the chance to demonstrate his considerable accumen.

He learned a lesson about the dissemination of information, or potentially misinformation, at an event like this. His experience was similar to mine last year when I gave out erroneous info about Showing Up that had been provided to me by a very reliable source. Given the original source of the quote, I can say that people attacking or ridiculing Dew for his eagerness are on the wrong side of the fence. Give him a chance. His judgement was bad in this case. It will be better next time.

Bogey 05-02-2007 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Justin Dew was on the show at my invitation. What was in his blog was the quote he received from a private clocker and he wrote it as such. How people interpreted the clocker's quote is not his 'fault'. He's a young guy who has worked hard all winter/spring following the Trail for kentuckyderby.com and has done a nice job. He didn't deserve to be villified for how he presented the information, and I was happy to have him on the show to give him the chance to demonstrate his considerable accumen.

He learned a lesson about the dissemination of information, or potentially misinformation, at an event like this. His experience was similar to mine last year when I gave out erroneous info about Showing Up that had been provided to me by a very reliable source. Given the original source of the quote, I can say that people attacking or ridiculing Dew for his eagerness are on the wrong side of the fence. Give him a chance. His judgement was bad in this case. It will be better next time.

Steve, the information that he gives out ultimately falls on him. He's has a certain responsibility to disseminate accurate information especially in this game where there are large amounts of money wagered.

I personally missed the segment, so I didn't hear him demonstrate his considerable acumen. There are more impostors in this sport than in any other from Media, Trainers, Jockeys, and more.

Finally, I respect your opinion and if you feel the guy deserves a second chance I'm OK with that.

paisjpq 05-02-2007 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Justin Dew was on the show at my invitation. What was in his blog was the quote he received from a private clocker and he wrote it as such. How people interpreted the clocker's quote is not his 'fault'. He's a young guy who has worked hard all winter/spring following the Trail for kentuckyderby.com and has done a nice job. He didn't deserve to be villified for how he presented the information, and I was happy to have him on the show to give him the chance to demonstrate his considerable accumen.

He learned a lesson about the dissemination of information, or potentially misinformation, at an event like this. His experience was similar to mine last year when I gave out erroneous info about Showing Up that had been provided to me by a very reliable source. Given the original source of the quote, I can say that people attacking or ridiculing Dew for his eagerness are on the wrong side of the fence. Give him a chance. His judgement was bad in this case. It will be better next time.

while all of this may be true...he should still ultimately have to explain his mistake and accept responsibility for what he wrote...it's part of his journalistic integrity no?

Coach Pants 05-02-2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
while all of this may be true...he should still ultimately have to explain his mistake and accept responsibility for what he wrote...it's part of his journalistic integrity no?

Bloggers aren't held to the same standards as journalists.

paisjpq 05-02-2007 09:07 AM

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Bloggers aren't held to the same standards as journalists.

should be...esp if they want to remain credible with people who may bet $$ based on what they write...that actually makes it worse in a way.

Coach Pants 05-02-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
should be...esp if they want to remain credible with people who may bet $$ based on what they write...that actually makes it worse in a way.

Well he could always get a job with FoxNews if the Churchill blog doesn't pan out.

philcski 05-02-2007 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
should be...esp if they want to remain credible with people who may bet $$ based on what they write...that actually makes it worse in a way.

I agree, especially considering while it's a "blog" it's being reported by KENTUCKYDERBY.COM, which should be a reputable source for news on Derby doings. All he needed to do was quote the clocker and he's providing one person's opinion rather than having it sound like fact.

Kasept 05-02-2007 09:56 AM

This wasn't a question of 'accuracy'.. He did not write as his opinion that the horse was 'stiff and sore.'

He quoted a private clocker's comments saying that, and properly attributed the quote as that of the private clocker.

He wasn't offering the opinion as his own. That difference seems to be going largely ignored by those that have been very rough on him.


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