PA Mom gets prison for getting daughter abortion

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This is a classic example of inability to view another's circumstances through any other lens than one's own..

This woman pled guilty she didn't go to trial. Pretty sure she was advised that proceeding to trial and pleading 'undue burden' for having to drive 70 miles or something similar was a longshot. Especially when she'd undoubtedly have to explain why she had no Obamacare or DPW benefits.

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/docket...R-0000026-2014

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I was unaware you were a single mom working as an underpaid home health care worker, Dell. Or that you have all kinds of inside info on the condition of her car and the amount of disposable income she has available for gas. Or what her days off are, as most clinics do not operate on the weekends and home health care workers seldom get paid vacation days as they aren't unionized.

And you're right I don't have any inside info on the car etc. but you don't have any inside info on friends, family, neighbors etc. who could have arranged a ride.

What I do know is had the mother/daughter inquired with PP of Harrisburg they would have read

If you need emergency contraception (morning after pill), you can walk in any time the health center is open. - See more at: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea....qBOfeI7D.dpuf

Not such a burden when you really think about it.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

This woman pled guilty she didn't go to trial. Pretty sure she was advised that proceeding to trial and pleading 'undue burden' for having to drive 70 miles or something similar was a longshot. Especially when she'd undoubtedly have to explain why she had no Obamacare or DPW benefits.

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/docket...R-0000026-2014



And you're right I don't have any inside info on the car etc. but you don't have any inside info on friends, family, neighbors etc. who could have arranged a ride.

What I do know is had the mother/daughter inquired with PP of Harrisburg they would have read

Not such a burden when you really think about it.

A) Again, 72 miles away.
B) You clearly don't know what the morning after pill is, or how it works.

And, by the way, the ACA doesn't cover abortion. No federal monies go towards paying for abortion, despite what you may read on RedState.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

A) Again, 72 miles away.
B) You clearly don't know what the morning after pill is, or how it works.

And, by the way, the ACA doesn't cover abortion. No federal monies go towards paying for abortion, despite what you may read on RedState.

Doesn't Federal money go to PP or is it separated like the Fed's do to SS contributions and in a lockbox?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Doesn't Federal money go to PP or is it separated like the Fed's do to SS contributions and in a lockbox?

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/

This will explain all to you. Yes, PP does get grants, but no Federal money can go to programs providing abortion. It's been that way since the 1970s; I don't understand why many GOP pols continue to lie about that and what PP does (see "not intended to be a factual statement," at the link).

[dellinger63]

Lets agree to disagree.

I don't think driving 74 miles to get a free abortion is an undue burden. It's not like the daughter was immaculately inseminated and isn't at fault. Perhaps had the mother thought about the 74 mile drive months earlier she could have driven her daughter down for some free contraception and avoided the mental scarring the daughter will now undoubtedly go through provided she has a conscience. Or had she followed the law and gotten her some Obamacare she would have been able to take her daughter to a local provider. But no, nowadays everyone's a victim.

On another note the City of Chicago still does not have a gun store. Is it an undue burden on law abiding citizens to force them to travel outside the city? Or is a free abortion more of a right than the right to bear arms even though one doesn't get the gun for free?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Lets agree to disagree.

I don't think driving 74 miles to get a free abortion is an undue burden. It's not like the daughter was immaculately inseminated and isn't at fault. Perhaps had the mother thought about the 74 mile drive months earlier she could have driven her daughter down for some free contraception and avoided the mental scarring the daughter will now undoubtedly go through provided she has a conscience. Or had she followed the law and gotten her some Obamacare she would have been able to take her daughter to a local provider. But no, nowadays everyone's a victim.

On another note the City of Chicago still does not have a gun store. Is it an undue burden on law abiding citizens to force them to travel outside the city? Or is a free abortion more of a right than the right to bear arms even though one doesn't get the gun for free?

Where on earth do you get the idea an abortion would be provided for free?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Where on earth do you get the idea an abortion would be provided for free?

When the article stated she had no insurance so couldn't get it done at a local hospital I thought it likely she was headed to Planned Parenthood in Harrisburg. I also presumed it likely the teen had no or very little income and would qualify for a 'free' procedure. Free as in paid for by someone else. Here locally a woman can qualify if yearly income is less than $17K and not only get contraception coverage but also general gyno care including checkups.

Get pregnant and want to keep the baby Planned Parenthood is out and the State takes over and not only is all healthcare 'free' they actually pay the teen mother money, give her and her baby 'free' or subsidized housing, 'free' food and a cell phone with 'free' 300 messages/month. Free as in paid for by someone else.

Incidentally that someone else is the taxpayer who has the undue burden of paying taxes on virtually anything everything he/she does or purchases. And now that same taxpayer has the undue burden of paying for illegals who are invading for the 'free' shiat we're giving away.

I can't help but wonder if the daughter had needed her tonsils out whether the mother would have googled tonsillectomy, ordered some tools and drugs on the internet and gone to work as a surgeon?