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Old 09-04-2014, 03:19 PM
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The best.. With Carson in '86.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lEX6HI4Mew
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:43 PM
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The best.. With Carson in '86.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lEX6HI4Mew
Absolutely wonderful stuff.

She was hilarious . . . brutally funny, and never (to my knowledge, and to her credit) apologized to anyone for "offending."

Thanks for all the laughs.
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:48 PM
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that's too bad, but i figured it was coming when they said they'd moved her to a private room and were keeping her comfortable.
back with edgar now? if one believes in that...
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RIP Joan...you were one of the best and will live on in all our memories. Biting humor and quick witted, and how she would laugh at herself while laying out a line would crack me up the most. Rest in Peace......
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chicks aren't funny, but she could make you laugh. even if it was at her, cause she was leading the laughs.
another of the ones who did so much with so little. RIP
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:03 PM
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She always owned the fact that she lead the world in plastic surgeries, nobody told more jokes about her, than she did you have to love and respect that! Very funny lady, stellar career. RIP
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While her comedy is what we'll all remember, she turned in several excellent dramatic performances as a young actress. If you've never seen the film adaptation of John Cheever's 'The Swimmer', her passing provides a good occasion to seek it out. While it's completely Burt Lancaster's vehicle, Rivers' moments in the devastating story are memorable..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lEX6HI4Mew
It's funny because in later years (ok yes on Howard Stern) she said she hated Johnny with a passion.

But god she was funny ...rip...maybe not a bad way to go at 81.
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It's funny because in later years (ok yes on Howard Stern) she said she hated Johnny with a passion.

But god she was funny ...rip...maybe not a bad way to go at 81.
Well, he totally cut her dead after she, god forbid, left to go do her own show. More recently, though, she talked about owing her whole career to him. She also had this to say about Neil Simon:

"“Do you want to hear something awful?” Joan asks. “When Edgar had just killed himself, I couldn't get work and they were looking for someone for Broadway Bound. Neil Simon said ‘don't bring her in.' But I came in on my own money, read for it and they gave the part to me right on the spot. That turned my life around. From that, I got my talk show and on and on. My whole life I said “'Neil Simon changed my life.' But when I saw him again years later he said, ‘You were a Kate?'”

There are comedians who have a real talent for sounding like they're just rambling through this and that until they land on a punchline, but in fact every stutter is practiced. She was brilliant at it. (Tommy Smothers is another) Barbara Walters said she was the only guest on The View who gave them questions to ask her ahead of time, so she could land a joke.

She did a really interesting interview a few years ago, talking about being a female comedian early on:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-carson-398088
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It's funny because in later years (ok yes on Howard Stern) she said she hated Johnny with a passion.

But god she was funny ...rip...maybe not a bad way to go at 81.
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Well, he totally cut her dead after she, god forbid, left to go do her own show. More recently, though, she talked about owing her whole career to him. She also had this to say about Neil Simon:

"“Do you want to hear something awful?” Joan asks. “When Edgar had just killed himself, I couldn't get work and they were looking for someone for Broadway Bound. Neil Simon said ‘don't bring her in.' But I came in on my own money, read for it and they gave the part to me right on the spot. That turned my life around. From that, I got my talk show and on and on. My whole life I said “'Neil Simon changed my life.' But when I saw him again years later he said, ‘You were a Kate?'”

There are comedians who have a real talent for sounding like they're just rambling through this and that until they land on a punchline, but in fact every stutter is practiced. She was brilliant at it. (Tommy Smothers is another) Barbara Walters said she was the only guest on The View who gave them questions to ask her ahead of time, so she could land a joke.

She did a really interesting interview a few years ago, talking about being a female comedian early on:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-carson-398088
It was when the 1st rumors of Carson retiring that some NBC Exec showed Joan some pages listing potential replacements. They were all men. At the bottom of the page, the Exec wrote, "Joan, you have no future at NBC."
Then Rosenberg helped her sign a deal with Fox before she called Carson.
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It was when the 1st rumors of Carson retiring that some NBC Exec showed Joan some pages listing potential replacements. They were all men. At the bottom of the page, the Exec wrote, "Joan, you have no future at NBC."
Then Rosenberg helped her sign a deal with Fox before she called Carson.

ABC showed old interview of her with Barbara Wawa..Joan said after she called Carson to tell him about her new show he never spoke to her again!...RIP funny lady..
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Vulture ran a great piece about her from 2010:

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/joan-...BUCMTGB88FxAr9

Really good read, and now I really want to see the documentary about her.
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ABC showed old interview of her with Barbara Wawa..Joan said after she called Carson to tell him about her new show he never spoke to her again!...RIP funny lady..
What was the point of this?

To say what I said was wrong on what led Carson to not ever to speak to Joan again Wrong?

I guess the interview that I saw with Joan (done in 2012) in her own words was wrong
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What was the point of this?

To say what I said was wrong on what led Carson to not ever to speak to Joan again Wrong?

I guess the interview that I saw with Joan (done in 2012) in her own words was wrong
Not at all, just mentioning a piece from the eve news..no offense intended
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