Travers day plays

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by Benny

exactly - why did 2 & 8 go inside of the leaders especially the 8

I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.

[jms62]

Toga 5

$20 DD 9/2,12

[Benny]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.

These are 2 yo horses, why try to split them instead of around ?

[declansharbor]

Monmouth 4

$25 DD 5 / 5,8
$10 DD 2 / 5

Toga 7

$5 P3 1,2,3,4,6 / 2,4,7 / 7

GL all!

[Benny]

SC at drf says, R8 now on inner turf,and R9 now on Mellon turf.

[ateamstupid]

Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.

I could not agree more about McIlory, I would never have taken 2-1 on that horse, to me the majority of scenarios were against. But it seems that these types have beaten me a lot this meet.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.

true


Race #8 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$50.00 Win/Place
# 9
$100.00


Race #9 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$4.00 Pick-4
# 3,4,7
WT # 5,7
WT # 2,6
WT # 1,2,6
$144.00


Race #13 08/23/2014 play o the day
Saratoga
$200.00 Win/Place
# 10
$400.00


gl all off to the thunder boat unlimited races here in the p cola bay!!

[jms62]

Race 8

$50 DD 2,8/3

[casp0555]

Spa 8

$1 Trifecta - 2,4/2,4,7/2,4,5,7,10
$12

[FATPIANO]

Spa 7th
10 ex box 4/10
10 dd 4/10 2

[LAP_520]

Keep this in the back of your mind ... and see how many more times J C goes after I O.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by LAP_520

Keep this in the back of your mind ... and see how many more times J C goes after I O.

Interesting perspective that makes one think. However if the stewards do the right thing, Javier will lose enough days to put Irad over the top. Javier needs some time on the bench after that.

[jms62]

Saratoga 7

$20 DD 4/2,8

[knickslions2]

Toga 7

$20 dd
10/4,10

[declansharbor]

Monmouth 5 $20 win 2
$8 ex 8 / 2,3

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by pointman

Interesting perspective that makes one think. However if the stewards do the right thing, Javier will lose enough days to put Irad over the top. Javier needs some time on the bench after that.

This was exactly the point I raised earlier; it seemed that Castellano was having a moment of temper on the track when he tried to ride Ortiz into the inside path in that earlier baby race.

The in-house NYRA team did not even mention the race riding tactics, the outcome, or the injury. Nor was there a tweet about the incident aside from noting that Irad Ortiz came back to win the fifth race with what was an excellent ride. This incident deserves coverage - perhaps not in the moment as I have suggested - but certainly is worthy of discussion.

[IrishofNDMan]

Race #8 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$25.00 Win
# 10
$25.00

[pointman]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.

He deserves days and should kiss the stars that the owner of that horse can't sue him for the value of the horse.