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Old 08-17-2014, 01:14 PM
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I love how I took the 4 because I thought would be on the lead, horse breaks great and Saez drags back. Bunch of dolts. Hard to play seriously with that kind of riding.


Took a saver on the 4 for the same reason figuring it was a pace less race. In retrospect should have just stayed out of it and satisfied playing the pic4. But nooooo.....
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:17 PM
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Took a saver on the 4 for the same reason figuring it was a pace less race. In retrospect should have just stayed out of it and satisfied playing the pic4. But nooooo.....
Looking back at the race, I am wondering why I would play the McLaughlin with Angel Arroyo over the one with Irad Ortiz on it. Having said that, on paper the 2 was much more accomplished. Credit Irad who has taken advantage of putting his horse in some races where seemingly the other jocks have no desire to win the race.

I also wonder at this point how Luis Saez is getting quality mounts in New York, or anywhere for that matter. He is awful, should be riding in Florida right now.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:20 PM
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Looking back at the race, I am wondering why I would play the McLaughlin with Angel Arroyo over the one with Irad Ortiz on it. Having said that, on paper the 2 was much more accomplished. Credit Irad who has taken advantage of putting his horse in some races where seemingly the other jocks have no desire to win the race.
Wonder how many jocks were told to lay back?
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:22 PM
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:22 PM
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Wonder how many jocks were told to lay back?
Your point is well taken, while we always complain that these guys drag back because that is what we see, obviously what we don't see is the conversations before the race where the trainers give instructions.

However, once the gates open, a jock has to assess the race, if your horse breaks well and no one else wants the lead, screw the instructions, go for the lead. They get paid when they win and it is their job to evaluate and adapt to situations once the gates open.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:31 PM
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Toga 2
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:35 PM
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That's why. Because Ortiz and Mejias are stupid no good scumbags.
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Old 08-17-2014, 02:24 PM
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4th spa $1 pick 3

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Old 08-17-2014, 07:40 PM
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The more I looked at this 6th race the more I thought the obvious 4 and 8 are plugs.

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Old 08-17-2014, 01:34 PM
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Your point is well taken, while we always complain that these guys drag back because that is what we see, obviously what we don't see is the conversations before the race where the trainers give instructions.

However, once the gates open, a jock has to assess the race, if your horse breaks well and no one else wants the lead, screw the instructions, go for the lead. They get paid when they win and it is their job to evaluate and adapt to situations once the gates open.


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Old 08-17-2014, 01:36 PM
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Geez, I could not have been more wrong there. The 6 got a perfect setup and went backwards.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:38 PM
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Toga 3
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:57 PM
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1/5,6 $20 ex.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:24 PM
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Of course I took 5 horses in the first leg and left the one out. Better watch out for K Mc. His barn is heating up
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:28 PM
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Spa 2

These are a bunch of plugs. I don't get the 2 at all at 2-1, horrid favorite. The 3 is ok. Going to take a shot on the 6 who has some back races that make her competitive against a sorry bunch like this. Just hope it is a fairly run race.

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Old 08-17-2014, 01:29 PM
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:20 PM
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283.00 Thanks guys!!.... Nice play Joey!!
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283.00 Thanks guys!!.... Nice play Joey!!
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:37 PM
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283.00 Thanks guys!!.... Nice play Joey!!
Let's get it Billy! Good hit!
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