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Old 07-27-2014, 04:51 PM
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Very impressive! Maybe he can run longer
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:52 PM
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Very impressive! Maybe he can run longer
Impressive? 8 other dolts let him get 3/4 in 1:11 on a lone lead?

Yeah, I wold love to see them run him longer so I can bet against him.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:57 PM
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Impressive? 8 other dolts let him get 3/4 in 1:11 on a lone lead?

Yeah, I wold love to see them run him longer so I can bet against him.
lol you have a point, Kaleem Shah and Baffert have received gifts this weekend with loose lead horses
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:01 PM
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It was a spectacular performance. The break wasn't that good so take that into account.

When asked...the horse shot like a cannon.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:16 PM
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With those fractions and trip on that biased track, there was absolutely no way the horse was going to lose. I hope he goes in the Travers so I can bet against him with both fists.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:47 PM
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With those fractions and trip on that biased track, there was absolutely no way the horse was going to lose. I hope he goes in the Travers so I can bet against him with both fists.
I dont think they point to the Travers. Its either Kings Bishop or PA Derby. I would run in the Kings Bishop. He would be 4-5 for another G1.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:53 PM
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I dont think they point to the Travers. Its either Kings Bishop or PA Derby. I would run in the Kings Bishop. He would be 4-5 for another G1.
Baffert said no to shortening up for the King's Bishop after the Haskell.
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:31 AM
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I dont think they point to the Travers. Its either Kings Bishop or PA Derby. I would run in the Kings Bishop. He would be 4-5 for another G1.
Baffert said yesterday he doesn't want to turn him back now. On ATR later. Likely 11:30a.
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Yeah...whoa.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:19 PM
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I understand that the pace was slow but the two horses that were going to be pressuring him attempted to do so early in the race.

Bayern is a good horse. Slow fractions or no. It's not like this crop is spectacular.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:24 PM
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I understand that the pace was slow but the two horses that were going to be pressuring him attempted to do so early in the race.

Bayern is a good horse. Slow fractions or no. It's not like this crop is spectacular.
I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:28 PM
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I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.
I don't think Baffert will run him in the Travers. Pennsylvania Derby against Chrome.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:31 PM
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Horse has won on the east and on the west...different distances..has shown more the most of the paper champions of this division
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:49 PM
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I don't think Baffert will run him in the Travers. Pennsylvania Derby against Chrome.
Makes sense. Parx is another track that rewards the front end.
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:29 AM
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I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...-07-27&race=12

Social Inclusion was very fractious prerace, and broke thru the gate,stumbled and bumped at the break, Wildcat Heir stumbled at the start.
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:32 AM
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I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.
I agree with this, that trip was great for a lot of reasons, will definitely bet against him down the road if he is bet like Untapable was.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:25 PM
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This horse has matured very well over the last few months..he has late on the trail was green through the preps and derby trial...preakness didn't show anything and then blinkers come on and this horse puts it together. You gotta admit like it or not this is a much more fit and professional bayern than we saw this spring...his last 2 performances are some of the most dominating performances we have seen from a 3 year old male
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