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Old 07-18-2014, 10:23 AM
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I've been out there a couple of Friday nights and while the attendance seems ok, people just do not bet any $$$. The pools are way too small it seems to generate a significant advantage.
I've been playing Friday nights - not as regularly as I'd like but I am not passing up a 14% horizontal rake. One of the best values available today. It also helps that a some of the Tampa trainers/jocks summer there, so there's a built-in familiarity with some of the horses/trainers/riders.
Love the small track feel, and Paul Allen's calls are contagious - I really enjoy the overall product.
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Old 07-18-2014, 11:37 AM
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Putting aside this gimmick, I love the turf racing at CBY. I may try to visit next year, as the poker room sounds nice, too. It has been a while since I bagged a new-to-me track. Scheduling issues probably make this year's meet impossible.
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:16 PM
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Traditional fans might not like the concept, but Extreme Race Day draws huge crowds. I was at Canterbury last year for this event and it was the biggest crowd I've ever seen there. Randy Moss (the announcer not the football player) was in attendance. There's some credibility right there.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:09 PM
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I have never gone to the races to watch zoo animals race. Call me weird.
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:11 PM
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I knew that CBY mile races were slow, but I didn't realize how slow they were. The current betting fav ran 1:42 3/5 for 8f in his last start, while the lowest priced turf runner ran the exact same time for 8.5f.
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:50 PM
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Well the dirt horses dominated.
6-1, 30-1, 42-1, 56-1.

Will be interesting to see how this race is charted.
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Old 07-19-2014, 05:29 PM
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Considering the dirt race was only an 8 horse field -- and the shortest price dirt horse won the race at 6/1 ... what a great bargain that price was if you...

A.) You knew the dirt horses would get to the wire first, as they logically were supposed to do.

B.) Liked the clear-cut favorite in the dirt race, and thought he was a deserving favorite.

Assuming you came to those conclusions ... that race offered a tremendous betting opportunity.

Take the betting favorite (of the dirt horses) ...wheel him over the only other 7 dirt horses and you get...

Exacta: $462.20

Trifecta: $11,373.80

Superfecta: $1,591.53 for every 10-cents ($15,915.30 for a buck)


If you think about it, those are big exotic prices for a race with just an 8-horse field where the post time favorite won. The 5th choice finished 2nd. And the 6th choice finished 3rd.

Wasted opportunity, I guess. Race seemed so gimmicky and weird, that it was hard to trust what "Abt 8.5 furlongs on the Turf" actually meant in terms of gate placement.
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Old 07-19-2014, 05:53 PM
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Was hard to trust the gates would open at the tight time
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Old 07-19-2014, 06:13 PM
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Considering the dirt race was only an 8 horse field -- and the shortest price dirt horse won the race at 6/1 ... what a great bargain that price was if you...

A.) You knew the dirt horses would get to the wire first, as they logically were supposed to do.

B.) Liked the clear-cut favorite in the dirt race, and thought he was a deserving favorite.

Assuming you came to those conclusions ... that race offered a tremendous betting opportunity.

Take the betting favorite (of the dirt horses) ...wheel him over the only other 7 dirt horses and you get...

Exacta: $462.20

Trifecta: $11,373.80

Superfecta: $1,591.53 for every 10-cents ($15,915.30 for a buck)


If you think about it, those are big exotic prices for a race with just an 8-horse field where the post time favorite won. The 5th choice finished 2nd. And the 6th choice finished 3rd.

Wasted opportunity, I guess. Race seemed so gimmicky and weird, that it was hard to trust what "Abt 8.5 furlongs on the Turf" actually meant in terms of gate placement.
At first I thought too for sure that the dirt horses had the advantage. However, early on in the wagering some of the turf horses were huge overlays and I also saw that the times were actually pretty competitive. Only took a shot in the race because it was such a fun gimmick.
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:30 AM
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Considering the dirt race was only an 8 horse field -- and the shortest price dirt horse won the race at 6/1 ... what a great bargain that price was if you...

A.) You knew the dirt horses would get to the wire first, as they logically were supposed to do.

B.) Liked the clear-cut favorite in the dirt race, and thought he was a deserving favorite.

Assuming you came to those conclusions ... that race offered a tremendous betting opportunity.

Take the betting favorite (of the dirt horses) ...wheel him over the only other 7 dirt horses and you get...

Exacta: $462.20

Trifecta: $11,373.80

Superfecta: $1,591.53 for every 10-cents ($15,915.30 for a buck)


If you think about it, those are big exotic prices for a race with just an 8-horse field where the post time favorite won. The 5th choice finished 2nd. And the 6th choice finished 3rd.

Wasted opportunity, I guess. Race seemed so gimmicky and weird, that it was hard to trust what "Abt 8.5 furlongs on the Turf" actually meant in terms of gate placement.
Doug, read on the Canterbury blog that the turf race was one mile and 90 yards, so actually 20 yds. shorter than 1 1/16 miles.
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:25 AM
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Well the dirt horses dominated.
6-1, 30-1, 42-1, 56-1.

Will be interesting to see how this race is charted.
As charts it is dealt with as two separate races.
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:27 AM
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I've been playing Friday nights - not as regularly as I'd like but I am not passing up a 14% horizontal rake. One of the best values available today. It also helps that a some of the Tampa trainers/jocks summer there, so there's a built-in familiarity with some of the horses/trainers/riders.
Love the small track feel, and Paul Allen's calls are contagious - I really enjoy the overall product.
Certainly didn't mean to disparage the track, and I totally agree with your points. The fact that I can see live racing is a total bonus. (moved here 3 months ago) But the pools are certainly limited. Love Paul Allen from the Viking broadcasts and believe is underated as a race caller. Plus Grunder is on the grounds as well. Its all good!
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