Shared Belief

Indian Charlie · #1 07-09-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

horseofcourse · #2 07-09-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.

Indian Charlie · #3 07-09-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.

Yes, they run the same way. Commentator and GoD are much alike.

However, I'll take the former as a higher quality any day. I wasn't even a big fan of his.

Who's overrating GoD? PG95, that's who.

RockHardTen1985 · #4 07-09-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yes, they run the same way. Commentator and GoD are much alike.

However, I'll take the former as a higher quality any day. I wasn't even a big fan of his.

Who's overrating GoD? PG95, that's who.

I don't overrate him. He is what he is. You overrated Belief I just pointed out GOD is much more accomplished. I mean hell Eskendereyas 3yr old races would crush Shared Belief.

Indian Charlie · #5 07-09-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I don't overrate him. He is what he is. You overrated Belief I just pointed out GOD is much more accomplished. I mean hell Eskendereyas 3yr old races would crush Shared Belief.

While it's nearly impossible to rank the list of all time greatest idiotic things you've ever said, this would have to be up there.

Alabama Stakes · #6 07-09-2014, 01:42 PM

what sayeth thou to that slander, Rockhead 10 ?

RockHardTen1985 · #7 07-09-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

While it's nearly impossible to rank the list of all time greatest idiotic things you've ever said, this would have to be up there.

No not really. And hopefully someone else well chime in. But Eskendereya ran a monstrous race in the Wood demolishing a pretty solid Jackson Bend. Duel G1 placed I believe, and I know he won at least 1 G1.

Indian Charlie · #8 07-09-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

No not really. And hopefully someone else well chime in. But Eskendereya ran a monstrous race in the Wood demolishing a pretty solid Jackson Bend. Duel G1 placed I believe, and I know he won at least 1 G1.

Does Jim Rome know how invaluable a service you are providing him?

RockHardTen1985 · #9 07-09-2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

I agree with one thing in that post. Commentator is one of the GOAT.

cakes44 · #10 07-09-2014, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I agree with one thing in that post. Commentator is one of the GOAT.

Fairly recent horses who will NEVER be mentioned among the GREATEST OF ALL TIME who were better than Commentator(everyone else feel free to add to this list as it is off the top of my head):

In no particular order
1. MDO
2. Invasor
3. Pleasantly Perfect
4. Mineshaft
5. Congaree
6. Lava Man(yep, i said it)
7. Perfect Drift
8. St. Liam
9. Candy Ride
10. Curlin
11. Roses in May
12. Game on Dude
13. ETC

RockHardTen1985 · #11 07-09-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

Fairly recent horses who will NEVER be mentioned among the GREATEST OF ALL TIME who were better than Commentator(everyone else feel free to add to this list as it is off the top of my head):

In no particular order
1. MDO
2. Invasor
3. Pleasantly Perfect
4. Mineshaft
5. Congaree
6. Lava Man(yep, i said it)
7. Perfect Drift
8. St. Liam
9. Candy Ride
10. Curlin
11. Roses in May
12. Game on Dude
13. ETC

I said one of. Not the GOAT. And the funny thing is his huge race beats every horses on you're lists huge race. Commentator was at least better then half of that list

cakes44 · #12 07-09-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I said one of. Not the GOAT. And the funny thing is his huge race beats every horses on you're lists huge race. Commentator was at least better then half of that list

Goodness sakes. You replace Commentator with each individual horse on my list in every race he was entered and each of their careers would demolish Commentators. Go the other way and it's still the same. Commentator could not pass horses and folded like a cheap suit when confronted. He did run huge in his one BC try though, so I'll give him that.

cakes44 · #13 07-09-2014, 03:20 PM

And just so I know, what does one of the GOAT mean? Top 100...200...500?

RockHardTen1985 · #14 07-09-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

And just so I know, what does one of the GOAT mean? Top 100...200...500?

I have Commentator 13th on the Rock Hard top 50 since 2000.

blackthroatedwind · #15 07-09-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

Fairly recent horses who will NEVER be mentioned among the GREATEST OF ALL TIME who were better than Commentator(everyone else feel free to add to this list as it is off the top of my head):

In no particular order
1. MDO
2. Invasor
3. Pleasantly Perfect
4. Mineshaft
5. Congaree
6. Lava Man(yep, i said it)
7. Perfect Drift
8. St. Liam
9. Candy Ride
10. Curlin
11. Roses in May
12. Game on Dude
13. ETC

Commentator's best race was better than the best race of almost everyone on that list. Commentator beat St. Liam fair and square in the Whitney...when St. Liam beat him, his trainer employed a pair of rabbits.

However, nothing is as indefensible as suggesting Perfect Drift was better than Commentator. That is about as bad an opinion as I have ever seen.

Wow. The only thing I find amazing is that it has taken me this long to put you on ignore.

cakes44 · #16 07-09-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Commentator's best race was better than the best race of almost everyone on that list. Commentator beat St. Liam fair and square in the Whitney...when St. Liam beat him, his trainer employed a pair of rabbits.

However, nothing is as indefensible as suggesting Perfect Drift was better than Commentator. That is about as bad an opinion as I have ever seen.

Wow. The only thing I find amazing is that it has taken me this long to put you on ignore.

I'm amazed that someone of your knowledge believes a horse's best race is what makes him a great racehorse. Commentator's "best races" came when he had everything go his way, and when they didn't against non-tomato cans, he quit. You are letting your Zito bias blind you here.

Ignore away...

jms62 · #17 07-09-2014, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

Game on Dude's "best races" came when he had everything go his way, and ran against tomato cans.

..

FTFY

RockHardTen1985 · #18 07-09-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Commentator's best race was better than the best race of almost everyone on that list. Commentator beat St. Liam fair and square in the Whitney...when St. Liam beat him, his trainer employed a pair of rabbits.

However, nothing is as indefensible as suggesting Perfect Drift was better than Commentator. That is about as bad an opinion as I have ever seen.

Wow. The only thing I find amazing is that it has taken me this long to put you on ignore.

Pretty much what I said, but I'm sure it means more coming from you.

NTamm1215 · #19 07-09-2014, 08:50 PM

Perfect Drift ended his career on a 19-race losing streak, even dropping three allowance races. Under no circumstances was he better than Commentator.

Commentator had injury issues. But when he was on his game, he was incredible.

Lava Man was incredibly overrated. Aside from his strong run in parts of 2005 and 2006, he was ordinary and has enjoyed an inflated standing by people all over the internet. Maybe it was because he was "the originals rags to riches."

That's just a few. I'll pull more PPs.

RockHardTen1985 · #20 07-09-2014, 09:15 PM

I might have to move Commentator up from 13. I actually might be underrating him. I forgot how strong his pps look.