6/7 (BEL): 146th Belmont Stakes (All G1 Stakes P6)

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by pointman

What a shame to see California Chrome's owner Steve Coburn making a complete fool of himself post race. What a sore loser.

Completely. I was just talking about how classy these people have been. Two minutes later he's making me look like an idiot. Be sad if you want, but nobody beat your horse because they pulled some sort of trick. He didn't have it on the day. There's still Champion 3yo and Horse of the Year. Go for those and stop griping. If they change the TC spacing with things like his remarks as an excuse, I'm gonna get mad.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Completely. I was just talking about how classy these people have been. Two minutes later he's making me look like an idiot. Be sad if you want, but nobody beat your horse because they pulled some sort of trick. He didn't have it on the day. There's still Champion 3yo and Horse of the Year. Go for those and stop griping. If they change the TC spacing with things like his remarks as an excuse, I'm gonna get mad.

I completely agree. I am sure now we are going to get people blaming Espinoza, especially after Randy Moss' comments.

As far as I am concerned, Victor Espinoza gave that horse every chance to win and unfortunately he just was not good enough today.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by pointman

I completely agree. I am sure now we are going to get people blaming Espinoza, especially after Randy Moss' comments.

As far as I am concerned, Victor Espinoza gave that horse every chance to win and unfortunately he just was not good enough today.

Agree with both of your post race comments.

Personally while watching the race, I didn't think California Chrome's stride looked all that comfortable on the backstretch compared to his last two races.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Agree with both of your post race comments.

Personally while watching the race, I didn't think California Chrome's stride looked all that comfortable on the backstretch compared to his last two races.

Might've been because of the grabbed quarter though. Not sure because War Admiral had it pretty rough too. Not all race-sustained physical problems are created equal and they don't all keep a horse from winning. Maybe all it would've meant is Tonalist catching him in the end or he finished on the board instead of deadheating for 4th. Coburn didn't know about the foot situation when he shot his mouth off. Maybe if he had he'd have rethought the comments and blamed the more likely culprit for his horse's result.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I think the total handle at Belmont today was around $180 million. That is insane. If I'm not mistaken I think that is as much as Churchill gets on Kentucky Derby day.

[Danzig]

Huge day for Belmont, good for them.


Hey, pimlico, take note.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think the total handle at Belmont today was around $180 million. That is insane. If I'm not mistaken I think that is as much as Churchill gets on Kentucky Derby day.

$150.3 million per the charts. That is a MASSIVE number. 2013 Belmont Stakes day was $88.7 million. The card was amazing and gave bettors all kinds of different options. Glad the gamble to move the Met Mile paid off.

Edit: Per Matt Hagerty, that actually beats the last BC hosted at Belmont by a pretty wide margin ($124MM)

[my miss storm cat]

Oh yeah there were two words I meant to say in my earlier post...

Palace. Malice.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by philcski

$150.3 million per the charts. That is a MASSIVE number. 2013 Belmont Stakes day was $88.7 million. The card was amazing and gave bettors all kinds of different options. Glad the gamble to move the Met Mile paid off.

Edit: Per Matt Hagerty, that actually beats the last BC hosted at Belmont by a pretty wide margin ($124MM)

I see now that they changed it. When I checked it earlier it said $19 million on track and $150 million ISW. In California there are 3 figures, on-track, ISW, and then ITW. There was nothing listed for ITW, so I figured they did $169 million($150 million ISW plus the $19 million on track), not including ITW. So I figured that including ITW, it was probably around $180 million. Now I see that NY does not show a separate ITW figure. It must be included in the on-track figure.

Now I see the chart says the ISU figure is $131 million, not $150 million, as it showed earlier. Anyway, $150 million is still a huge number. Congrats to NYRA!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Might've been because of the grabbed quarter though. Not sure because War Admiral had it pretty rough too. Not all race-sustained physical problems are created equal and they don't all keep a horse from winning. Maybe all it would've meant is Tonalist catching him in the end or he finished on the board instead of deadheating for 4th. Coburn didn't know about the foot situation when he shot his mouth off. Maybe if he had he'd have rethought the comments and blamed the more likely culprit for his horse's result.

Cali chrome is no war admiral. That horse was a crazy tough little horse.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Completely. I was just talking about how classy these people have been. Two minutes later he's making me look like an idiot. Be sad if you want, but nobody beat your horse because they pulled some sort of trick. He didn't have it on the day. There's still Champion 3yo and Horse of the Year. Go for those and stop griping. If they change the TC spacing with things like his remarks as an excuse, I'm gonna get mad.

Your horse got beat today.......suck it up and saddle that mother up and beat his ass in the next race. Jesus HC...needed a serious emotion check prior to that

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by casp0555

Your horse got beat today.......suck it up and saddle that mother up and beat his ass in the next race. Jesus HC...needed a serious emotion check prior to that

Yeah. My dad pointed out to me that his wife was poking him in the gut and he turned and gave her the stink eye. Here's the thing, Tonalist and Commissioner wanted in the Derby and for points and illness reasons couldn't go. How does that guy know Tonalist wouldn't have beaten him in the Derby? Or Commissioner? Clearly distance isn't an issue for them and they both showed speed. It's not like some nobody plodder beat them. These were classy horses, bred for the distance. Tonalist's female family's rock solid.