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Old 05-08-2014, 07:11 PM
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There is much to chuckle about there, but my personal favorite is California Chrome being ranked ahead of Cirrus des Aigles ( who only finished second in the Sheema to Gentiledonna and beat Treve at Longchamp ).
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:06 PM
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There is much to chuckle about there, but my personal favorite is California Chrome being ranked ahead of Cirrus des Aigles ( who only finished second in the Sheema to Gentiledonna and beat Treve at Longchamp ).
I think Cirrus des Aigles should be second and Game On Dude should not be in 3rd.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:11 PM
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Will Take Charge 5th, Wise Dan 11th
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:27 PM
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It should be noted that the rankings are based on the best performances based on surface. This does not equate to speed, at all. Class is the main factor. There are no other dirt races in the world outside of the U.S. to compare, and anyway you look at it, the Derby winner is still the Derby winner. These are only based on the calendar year as well.

Furthermore, a horse can't lose a ranking. They get their ranking for one race performance, and only one race performance, and that number sticks. It won't change. Someone else has to surpass it.

With the vast majority of older-horse races in Europe still to come, there is plenty of time for the Americans to be passed.

What will be even better is when Variety Club smashes Wise Dan in the Breeders' Cup Mile.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:02 AM
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The rankings are a joke in many ways but this?

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What will be even better is when Variety Club smashes Wise Dan in the Breeders' Cup Mile.


He's a good horse with an awfully nice record BUT beating up on Haatheq and Rutland Boy repeatedly (and yes I am only talking about his races this year) and some tiring HK (former) champions (California Memory, Dan Excel etc) is quite a bit different.

Dan will eat him for lunch.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:39 PM
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Please.

Look into Able Friend a bit more. He beat Designs on Rome earlier this year, and was deservedly short in the Champions Mile. Designs on Rome wins the APQEII Cup from Military Attack and Vercingetorix.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:48 AM
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By the time Lukas gets 12 more races into WTC this year, I'm sure we won't have to worry about whether he is as good as CC.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:31 AM
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Please.

Look into Able Friend a bit more. He beat Designs on Rome earlier this year, and was deservedly short in the Champions Mile. Designs on Rome wins the APQEII Cup from Military Attack and Vercingetorix.
Gee thanks for the info cause I have never paid attention to HK in my life.

Zaidan hasn't won since Feb. of 2012, California Memory, who is one of my favorite horses ever, hasn't even run since last November.

Poor Real Specialist had his good season with 6 wins back in 2012 (no wins since). Should I go on? Helene Spirit and Dan Excel (with his total 2 wins?)? Come on...

These aren't exactly the days of the old guard. This isn't Bullsih Luck / Silent Witness / Vengeance of Rain / Sacred Kingdom time.

I don't need a lecture on Able Friend and yes I know about Designs on Rome but I would argue that the field wasn't really very strong considering.

Wise Dan fights back. He knows where that finish line is. I don't know how many races he has left but I don't think anyone... good horse or flavor of the month... will be beating him period.
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