Brilliant moves by Churchill

[jms62]

Originally Posted by booner

If they keep pissing off the bettors and the owners, they won't be running much of a business in Louisville.

Bettors will bet and owners will run for the best purses. Hard for me to feign outrage for someone who obviously has a sense of entitlement. Entitlement only applies to the other guy I guess. I am sure he has no problem with other companies in his portfolio maximizing revenue for their shareholders.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Bettors will bet and owners will run for the best purses. Hard for me to feign outrage for someone who obviously has a sense of entitlement. Entitlement only applies to the other guy I guess. I am sure he has no problem with other companies in his portfolio maximizing revenue for their shareholders.

the 'don't you know who i am?' syndrome....

but i want to bring a bunch of guests, why can't you accomodate me?

[Sightseek]

I gather this isn't the sort of treatment that other tracks are giving to the owners and rightfully so...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I gather this isn't the sort of treatment that other tracks are giving to the owners and rightfully so...

Other tracks aren't running the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks where seats are sold out 8 months in advance.

Cry me a river, Porter.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

Other tracks aren't running the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks where seats are sold out 8 months in advance.

Cry me a river, Porter.

What difference will a couple seats make vs. the dollars bet because he runs his horse?

If they have seats for B list celebrities that even People magazine doesn't care about, they should be able to accommodate the owners entering horses in their races.

[Big Peps]

Exactly.. Saratoga isn't much better, so much red tape for anything as well. It's a joke. I just always assume when my horses are running that I will get screwed by calling for anything so why bother. Like I said, it's a joke.

Takes a miracle for anything to happen. even getting down the stairs into the paddock is a at aqueduct is a pain in the ass with my 3 little kids, somebody always giving you a hard time over something. MAKES YOU JUST FEEL THE LOVE.

[robfla]

Porter sounds like a rich, entitled, whiner to me

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Big Peps

Exactly.. Saratoga isn't much better, so much red tape for anything as well. It's a joke. I just always assume when my horses are running that I will get screwed by calling for anything so why bother. Like I said, it's a joke.

Takes a miracle for anything to happen. even getting down the stairs into the paddock is a at aqueduct is a pain in the ass with my 3 little kids, somebody always giving you a hard time over something. MAKES YOU JUST FEEL THE LOVE.

But you still run your horses at Saratoga?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

What difference will a couple seats make vs. the dollars bet because he runs his horse?

If they have seats for B list celebrities that even People magazine doesn't care about, they should be able to accommodate the owners entering horses in their races.

Maybe if he didn't come off as such a doosh and entitled I'd be a little more sympathetic. I'm tired of millionaires like him whining. This is the way it's been for a long time and he knows it quite well- this isn't a change. You run on Derby Day, don't expect tickets. He's an assclown, even if I generally like his horses.

[Frost King]

The funny thing is he promises the Vets the tickets, and expects somebody else to pay for it with their dime. Nice job of trying to make yourself look important.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by philcski

Maybe if he didn't come off as such a doosh and entitled I'd be a little more sympathetic. I'm tired of millionaires like him whining. This is the way it's been for a long time and he knows it quite well- this isn't a change. You run on Derby Day, don't expect tickets. He's an assclown, even if I generally like his horses.

Exactly - has he ever been denied free seats on any other Saturday when he's got a horse entered in an N1X? I doubt it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

Other tracks aren't running the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks where seats are sold out 8 months in advance.

Cry me a river, Porter.

that's just it...just about any day of the year, they can accomodate you. but on these two days, one must expect it will be different.
i know he doesn't want to be around the unwashed masses, but does he really expect churchill to give away seats when it's their two days that carry the year?

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by jms62

Bettors will bet and owners will run for the best purses. Hard for me to feign outrage for someone who obviously has a sense of entitlement. Entitlement only applies to the other guy I guess. I am sure he has no problem with other companies in his portfolio maximizing revenue for their shareholders.

I see both sides, but I agree that he does come off as someone believing he is "entitled". If you own stakes horses racing for hundreds of thousands of dollars, what's a few hundred in seats going to hurt. CD does plenty wrong, and perhaps they should accommodate for a reasonable price.

[booner]

Originally Posted by jms62

Bettors will bet and owners will run for the best purses. Hard for me to feign outrage for someone who obviously has a sense of entitlement. Entitlement only applies to the other guy I guess. I am sure he has no problem with other companies in his portfolio maximizing revenue for their shareholders.

I'm with you on that. My comment was more tongue-in-cheek, especially after the failed attempt at the bettor's boycott Saturday that saw handle go up 7%.

I do think a couple of seats at a discount for a owner wouldn't asking too much, though. Throw a little bone out there......

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by booner

I'm with you on that. My comment was more tongue-in-cheek, especially after the failed attempt at the bettor's boycott Saturday that saw handle go up 7%.

I do think a couple of seats at a discount for a owner wouldn't asking too much, though. Throw a little bone out there......

at any time other than these two days, that's what they do, isn't it?

[tanner12oz]

Winners circle and paddock to be eliminated to make room for more 42k tables at Churchill...im just kidding but it almost sounds plausible in the twlight zoneof racing we are in

[booner]

Originally Posted by Danzig

at any time other than these two days, that's what they do, isn't it?

I have no idea. When I've been to CD and Ellis Park, I see names on several of the box seats. I just figure that those owners/trainers purchase a "season pass" or something along those lines.

I wouldn't expect owners/trainers to get free seats on Oaks or Derby Day, but I would think some kind of discount would be offered. Guess I'm just being naive on this subject....