PETA undercover in Asmussen's barn - Whoa!

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by Danzig

'merely'? he's under investigation for serious things, not for swearing..serious enough he fired blasi, with whom he had a long history.


edit--im just repeating myself. ive covered all this. if anyone doesnt agree with me, fine. but i loathe repeating myself...so i don't think i have anything else to add.

Lol. Blasi is not fired, he is simply not on the staff currently. He will be back. You're crusade is misguided. For anyone to think Asmussen should bow down to the PETA crowd because of an edited video that showed nothing horse related other than his asst cusses often is truly comical.

[Benny]

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[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by JDank34

Lol. Blasi is not fired, he is simply not on the staff currently. He will be back. You're crusade is misguided. For anyone to think Asmussen should bow down to the PETA crowd because of an edited video that showed nothing horse related other than his asst cusses often is truly comical.

You mean other than admitting giving thyroid medicine to horses that don't have a thyroid problem to enhance performance, right?

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

You mean other than admitting giving thyroid medicine to horses that don't have a thyroid problem to enhance performance, right?

You do understand that is not illegal correct?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by JDank34

You do understand that is not illegal correct?

That it may not be explicitly prohibited doesn't make it right or ethical (especially in light of what happened from Baffert's use of similar medication).

As I stated earlier in this thread, we should not kid ourselves that everything in the PETA video is completely benign. The part about putting a gel cast on a horse to "fool" the state vet about a horse that he scratched (to Blasi's dismay) is pretty bad stuff.

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

That it may not be explicitly prohibited doesn't make it right or ethical (especially in light of what happened from Baffert's use of similar medication).

As I stated earlier in this thread, we should not kid ourselves that everything in the PETA video is completely benign. The part about putting a gel cast on a horse to "fool" the state vet about a horse that he scratched (to Blasi's dismay) is pretty bad stuff.

I am not arguing that much of the video is hard to watch, however to make widespread accusations based on it would be incorrect. Regarding the specific gel cast issue, Blasi was in a relationship with the girl. Everyone knows that. Scott is a rough around the edges guy. Have you, or any other guy you know (because I sure have) ever run off at the mouth to "impress" a new girl with your bravado? Sure you have. Could that clip be explained by that context? Sure it could.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by JDank34

I am not arguing that much of the video is hard to watch, however to make widespread accusations based on it would be incorrect. Regarding the specific gel cast issue, Blasi was in a relationship with the girl. Everyone knows that. Scott is a rough around the edges guy. Have you, or any other guy you know (because I sure have) ever run off at the mouth to "impress" a new girl with your bravado? Sure you have. Could that clip be explained by that context? Sure it could.

That's respectfully BS.. He is running his mouth to prove how great he is by being an Ahole? Very impressive.. Explained and condoned? Please the team including all the vet's and farriers should be accountable.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Please the team including all the vet's and farriers should be accountable.

Accountable for what?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

That it may not be explicitly prohibited doesn't make it right or ethical (especially in light of what happened from Baffert's use of similar medication).

As I stated earlier in this thread, we should not kid ourselves that everything in the PETA video is completely benign. The part about putting a gel cast on a horse to "fool" the state vet about a horse that he scratched (to Blasi's dismay) is pretty bad stuff.

There is no evidence that any of Bafferts deaths were caused by thyroid medication except for the internet speculation and experts that have declared it proof.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is no evidence that any of Bafferts deaths were caused by thyroid medication except for the internet speculation and experts that have declared it proof.

Didn't Baffert suggest it as well?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Didn't Baffert suggest it as well?

Of course he would. There is no penalty or further investigation that way and he doesnt even have to admit anything. While we dont know what else he was giving them, blaming thyroid powder is about the best excuse you could come up with because the vast majority of vets would say that they have used it on tens of thousands of horses without ever having had a rash of deaths. Makes it look like a fluke thing.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by JDank34

You do understand that is not illegal correct?

Well, that is debatable. I'm pretty sure it requires a prescription. If I'm right, somebody is doing something that isn't legal, either a vet or a trainer.

Even if it is legal, that is the kind of thinking that will doom the sport. You can't use drugs designed for a medical purpose as a performance enhancer. The sport will not survive without public support, and if that kind of stuff becomes commonplace, that support will vanish, and vanish quickly. It shows complete disregard for the horses.

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Well, that is debatable. I'm pretty sure it requires a prescription. If I'm right, somebody is doing something that isn't legal, either a vet or a trainer.

Even if it is legal, that is the kind of thinking that will doom the sport. You can't use drugs designed for a medical purpose as a performance enhancer. The sport will not survive without public support, and if that kind of stuff becomes commonplace, that support will vanish, and vanish quickly. It shows complete disregard for the horses.

I do not disagree that the sport has plenty of things to clean up. My point is, jumping to conclusions based on a VERY edited video that shows nothing illegal is a disservice to all.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by JDank34

I do not disagree that the sport has plenty of things to clean up. My point is, jumping to conclusions based on a VERY edited video that shows nothing illegal is a disservice to all.

The problem with making the "jumping to conclusions" argument is that it is not like Asmussen has a regulatory record that is anywhere close to pristine. I agree that some of the previously-adjudicated rules violations are not necessarily consistent with "cruelty to animals." That said, the notion that a guy with his track record was on the verge of entering the Hall of Fame is troubling (and is evidence that the sport largely condones his behavior).

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by JDank34

I do not disagree that the sport has plenty of things to clean up. My point is, jumping to conclusions based on a VERY edited video that shows nothing illegal is a disservice to all.

If it requires a prescription, then using it for another purpose is illegal. Am I wrong that a prescription is required from a vet?

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

If it requires a prescription, then using it for another purpose is illegal. Am I wrong that a prescription is required from a vet?

A prescription is required.