Puzzling Kentucky Derby Picture

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by jms62

Usually when someone makes such a statement as you have they would provide a scintilla of reasoning why they feel that way. Sorry if I have such high expectations.

No problem on your expectations.

1. Many horses are much different animals in May than November. Much more so than the difference between March and May anyways. IC's point(though sarcastic) about how poorly the top 4 finishers from the BCJ do in the Derby is spot on.

2. Horses getting enough points in the BCJ to already get into the Derby will promote connections to go with even less preps than they do now IMO.

3. The quality of horses you have to beat in a March prep is much better than a November G1, which also makes them more significant.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by cakes44

No problem on your expectations.

1. Many horses are much different animals in May than November. Much more so than the difference between March and May anyways. IC's point(though sarcastic) about how poorly the top 4 finishers from the BCJ do in the Derby is spot on.

2. Horses getting enough points in the BCJ to already get into the Derby will promote connections to go with even less preps than they do now IMO.

3. The quality of horses you have to beat in a March prep is much better than a November G1, which also makes them more significant.

I pretty much ignore IC as I have never seen him post a real bet. Yadda Yadda Yadda but never see him in the selections thread. Where you and I disagree is that I see the current system as encouraging less preps since the real preps don't start until mid Feb. i think they can structure the system where a G1 or G2 win would be nearly automatic but a G3 not. As horse playerI want to see a meaningful prep schedule to look forward to from Breeders cup to Derby.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by jms62

I pretty much ignore IC as I have never seen him post a real bet. Yadda Yadda Yadda but never see him in the selections thread. Where you and I disagree is that I see the current system as encouraging less preps since the real preps don't start until mid Feb. i think they can structure the system where a G1 or G2 win would be nearly automatic but a G3 not. As horse playerI want to see a meaningful prep schedule to look forward to from Breeders cup to Derby.

That's ok.

As I've never seen you post anything interesting, or even something insightful, I feel the same way towards you.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's ok.

As I've never seen you post anything interesting, or even something insightful, I feel the same way towards you.

Cool I'm good with that but at least I have the balls to post my opinions however bad they are in the selections thread. You however seem incapable of leaving the Paddock but seem to know everything about everything. Good luck when you finally decide to put down a bet.

[pmayjr]

so when I post all my wacky ideas in here, but don't post in the selection threads... because most of the time I don't pre-cap races until I get to the track, my opinions are invalid too?

god I love you guys... all of you

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

so when I post all my wacky ideas in here, but don't post in the selection threads... because most of the time I don't pre-cap races until I get to the track, my opinions are invalid too?

god I love you guys... all of you

Sorry. We will keep a seat open for you on selections.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

so when I post all my wacky ideas in here, but don't post in the selection threads... because most of the time I don't pre-cap races until I get to the track, my opinions are invalid too?

god I love you guys... all of you

Some people need to impose rigid conditions on themselves to function in life. Without adequate structure, some people implode, thus they need to simplify things. We all do it to some degree.

The funny thing about what jms said is that for about twenty years, horse racing was my religion, and I was as devout a follower as one could imagine. It's very possible that I've placed more bets and gambled more money than he has.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by jms62

As horse playerI want to see a meaningful prep schedule to look forward to from Breeders cup to Derby.

Me and you are on the same page there. The old system was broke because horses that finished 2nd in either the BCJ or Delta Jackpot were already in the KD, no matter what they did afterward. However, the new system doesn't seem to be doing any better in terms of making horses run as 3-year-olds, which I thought was kind of the goal of it.