Derby Trail/Triple Crown Notebook

[Kasept]

3/29/14 Florida Derby 1 1/8M - GP:

Cairo Prince (McLaughlin)
Wildcat Red (Garoffalo)
General a Rod (Maker)
Constitution (Pletcher)
Matador (Casse)
Spot (Zito)


3/29/14 Louisiana Derby 1 1/8M - FG:

Intense Holiday (Pletcher)
Albano (L. Jones)
Vicar's in Trouble (Maker)
Gold Hawk (Asmussen)
Quick Indian (M. Scherer)
Commanding Curve (Stewart)
Louies Flower (Calhoun)
In Trouble (Dutrow)


3/29/14 UAE Derby 1 3/16M (S) - MEY:

Asmar (Nass)
Cooptado (Watson)
Emirates Flyer (bin Suroor)
Paximadia (bin Suroor)
Figure of Speech (Appleby)
Long John (Appleby)
Safety Check (Appleby)
Giovanni Boldini (O’Brien)
Sir John Hawkins (O’Brien)
Jallota (de Kock)
King Rubi (Palussiere)
Sir Jack Layden (Brown)
Toast of New York (Osborne)

[booner]

Heard yesterday that the connections of Harry's Holiday were going to pony up the $6k late nomination fee to get him into the Derby. Did they make the deadline?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by booner

Heard yesterday that the connections of Harry's Holiday were going to pony up the $6k late nomination fee to get him into the Derby. Did they make the deadline?

Undoubtedly.. Time stands still when it comes to those late noms.

[pmayjr]

question-
I was at work, so didn't watch any race on the card except for the replay of the Spiral. Was the track speed-favoring yesterday?

Nobody closed in the Spiral. I mean Artie and Asserting Bear kinda did, but they were close-up... Just wondering if the kickback ate up the closers or? I get as far as horse's potential on dirt there wasn't much in this field, but so many in here were eligible to move up on synth and it just seemed like "first to the front, wins" (Solitary Ranger the exception).

Just wondering if the connections of a lot of these may draw a line through the race and try again in 3 weeks either in the Bluegrass? Poker Player was originally pointed there anyway?

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

question-
I was at work, so didn't watch any race on the card except for the replay of the Spiral. Was the track speed-favoring yesterday?

Nobody closed in the Spiral. I mean Artie and Asserting Bear kinda did, but they were close-up... Just wondering if the kickback ate up the closers or? I get as far as horse's potential on dirt there wasn't much in this field, but so many in here were eligible to move up on synth and it just seemed like "first to the front, wins" (Solitary Ranger the exception).

Just wondering if the connections of a lot of these may draw a line through the race and try again in 3 weeks either in the Bluegrass? Poker Player was originally pointed there anyway?

the track appeared fair to me

[pmayjr]

it'll be very interesting to see who tries to come back in the Bluegrass and Ark Derby in 3 weeks from the Spiral and Ark Derby.

Gotta think Commish to the Ark Derby, right?

I kinda hope that Poker Player and Tamarando get one more chance in either the Bluegrass or Ark Derby, because no one closed in the Spiral yesterday. Were they inferior, or did the track play a certain way?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

it'll be very interesting to see who tries to come back in the Bluegrass and Ark Derby in 3 weeks from the Spiral and Ark Derby.

Gotta think Commish to the Ark Derby, right?

I kinda hope that Poker Player and Tamarando get one more chance in either the Bluegrass or Ark Derby, because no one closed in the Spiral yesterday. Were they inferior, or did the track play a certain way?

People closed. The 2 speeds finished 9th and 11th. Tamarando is just not very good, I mean he is supposed to out finish Artic Slope, right?

[booner]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

it'll be very interesting to see who tries to come back in the Bluegrass and Ark Derby in 3 weeks from the Spiral and Ark Derby.

Gotta think Commish to the Ark Derby, right?

I kinda hope that Poker Player and Tamarando get one more chance in either the Bluegrass or Ark Derby, because no one closed in the Spiral yesterday. Were they inferior, or did the track play a certain way?

Gotta think the connections would give him one more try after that bad start. I think he deserves it....

[booner]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Undoubtedly.. Time stands still when it comes to those late noms.

Just like the horses loading into the gate before the first race of the Rainbow 6?

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Undoubtedly.. Time stands still when it comes to those late noms.

I saw a list earlier today that had him as not nominated?

[Kasept]

Kentucky Derby 2014 point standings (3/29)

Leader board for qualifying points to the 2014 Kentucky Derby, which will be run at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Ky., on Saturday, May 3, 2014. Points are earned by the top four finishers in designated Kentucky Derby prep races. Earnings in non-restricted stakes races serve as a tie-breaker.

1 Vicar's in Trouble Mike Maker 120 $760,000
2 Toast of New York Jamie Osborne 100 $1,200,000
3 Constitution Todd Pletcher 100 $600,000
4 Intense Holiday Todd Pletcher 93 $527,500
5 Wildcat Red Jose Garrofalo 90 $665,500
6 We Miss Artie Todd Pletcher 60 $544,000
7 Samraat Rick Violette Jr. 60 $450,500
8 Hoppertunity Bob Baffert 55 $376,000
9 Chitu Bob Baffert 54 $440,000
10 Midnight Hawk Bob Baffert 52 $320,500

11 Ring Weekend H. Graham Motion 50 $210,000
12 California Chrome Art Sherman 50 $182,250
13 Tapiture Steve Asmussen 42 $420,738
14 General a Rod Mike Maker 40 $240,000
15 Albano Larry Jones 34 $190,000
16 Cairo Prince Kiaran McLaughlin 24 $520,000
17 Uncle Sigh Gary Contessa 24 $150,000
18 Vinceremos Todd Pletcher 20 $190,000
19 Harry's Holiday Mike Maker 20 $150,956
20 Commanding Curve Dallas Stewart 20 $140,000
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21 Ride on Curlin Billy Gowan 15 $154,387
22 Kristo John Sadler 14 $56,000
23 Coastline Mark Casse 13 $129,679
24 Tamarando Jerry Holldendorfer 12 $495,000
25 Strong Mandate D. Wayne Lukas 11 $472,500
26 Rise Up Tom Amoss 10 $786,633
27 Giovanni Boldini Aidan O'Brien 10 $345,676
28 Candy Boy John Sadler 10 $260,000
29 In Trouble Tony Dutrow 10 $190,000
30 Noble Moon Leah Gyarmati 10 $145,000

31 Ami's Holiday Josie Carroll 10 $136,145
32 Tanzanite Cat Cody Autrey 10 $111,000
33 Commissioner Todd Pletcher 10 $104,000
34 Cleburne Dale Romans 10 $102,044
35 Conquest Titan Mark Casse 9 $180,495
36 Dance With Fate Peter Eurton 8 $150,000
37 Casiguapo Mario Morales 5 $271,050
38 Financial Mogul Rick Violette, Jr 5 $93,000
39 East Hall Bill Kaplan 5 $77,550
40 Classic Giacnroll Lisa Guerrero 5 $62,500

41 Asserting Bear Reade Baker 5 $31,432
42 Schoolofhardknocks David Hofmans 5 $18,000
43 Scotland Tony Dutrow 4 $45,000
44 Big Bazinga Katerina Vassilieva 4 $44,469
45 Laddie Boy Chuck Peery 4 $42,599
46 Smart Cover Dale Romans 4 $38,418
47 Enterprising Tom Proctor 2 $91,100
48 Arctic Slope Ken McPeek 2 $47,572
49 Wicked Strong Jimmy Jerkens 2 $40,000
50 Gold Hawk Steve Asmussen 2 $3,000

51 Awesome Sky Mark Casse 2 $16,819
52 Diamond Bachelor Patrick Biancone 1 $92,000
53 Rum Point Doug O'Neill 1 $30,250
54 Almost Famous Patrick Byrne 1 $28,579
55 Matuszak Bill Mott 1 $22,667
56 Son of a Preacher Bret Calhoun 1 $11,500
57 Buck Magic Dave Fawkes 1 $8,410
58 I'll Wrap It Up Doug O'Neill 1 $6,000

[pmayjr]

ummm... Vicar isn't in trouble, but Cairo Prince is. I thought without looking at the standings he'd eek in... He's f'd with all those horse yet to run the next 2 weekends. Would have to take some big flops and defections on top of it.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

ummm... Vicar isn't in trouble, but Cairo Prince is. I thought without looking at the standings he'd eek in... He's f'd with all those horse yet to run the next 2 weekends. Would have to take some big flops and defections on top of it.

These are fragile horses. I have to think a couple of them get injured (not that I wish that).

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Kasept

3/29/14 UAE Derby 1 3/16M (S) - MEY:

Asmar (Nass)
Cooptado (Watson)
Emirates Flyer (bin Suroor)
Paximadia (bin Suroor)
Figure of Speech (Appleby)
Long John (Appleby)
Safety Check (Appleby)
Giovanni Boldini (O’Brien)
Sir John Hawkins (O’Brien)
Jallota (de Kock)
King Rubi (Palussiere)
Sir Jack Layden (Brown)
Toast of New York (Osborne)

I thought the Coolmores (Aiden O'Brien) were sending over Michaelmas too?

[Payson Dave]

Honor Code now off the Derby Trail with slight tear in upper hind suspensory per Mike Welsch

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Honor Code now off the Derby Trail with slight tear in upper hind suspensory per Mike Welsch

Tough break. But i never had the feeling he was on the Derby Trail..Behind the eight ball all winter..