PETA undercover in Asmussen's barn - Whoa!

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Very fair.. But have them actually spend time and get a complete picture of normal operating procedure. What's presented are snapshots specifically chosen to provoke negative reaction.

PETA is going to put their slant on it no doubt, they are not exactly "ethical".

Still the fact is I dont think people are all that shocked that are on these boards, its definitely a "tell me something we didnt know". Its the general public, the court of public opinion so to speak.

Maybe racing can control the message on this one?

Probably best course is to admit there is an issue, announce some kind of national panel on what they can do to solve it, not try to run from it.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

PETA is going to put their slant on it no doubt, they are not exactly "ethical".

Still the fact is I dont think people are all that shocked that are on these boards, its definitely a "tell me something we didnt know". Its the general public, the court of public opinion so to speak.

Maybe racing can control the message on this one?

Probably best course is to admit there is an issue, announce some kind of national panel on what they can do to solve it, not try to run from it.

And unfortunately, that's the exact opposite of what "They" will do.

Because as always there is no "They".

So it will go ignored and unaddressed with the exception of columnists and bloggers who will clamor for the "They" to react.

[GenuineRisk]

It doesn't hurt to wade into comment threads on other boards and dispel misinformation, I find. As long as you can keep your temper and limit your response to correcting to the specific error the person is stating. As a racing fan, I found the Lasix threads here very, very helpful and they really did reshape my opinion on it.

Unfortunately, it's easy for people to condemn something they have no interest in. They'll scream about undocumented workers on the backstretch, but not a word about undocumented workers harvesting the food they eat. Because they don't want to pay more for their produce. They'll scream about cruel and inhumane treatment for race horses, but not a word on far more barbaric conditions at factory farms for pigs, chickens and cows. Because they like to eat pigs, chickens and cows, want to eat it a lot and don't want it to cost very much money. But horse racing? Oh, that's easy to scream about, because nothing in their lives would change if it were gone. Sigh.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

It doesn't hurt to wade into comment threads on other boards and dispel misinformation, I find. As long as you can keep your temper and limit your response to correcting to the specific error the person is stating. As a racing fan, I found the Lasix threads here very, very helpful and they really did reshape my opinion on it.

Unfortunately, it's easy for people to condemn something they have no interest in. They'll scream about undocumented workers on the backstretch, but not a word about undocumented workers harvesting the food they eat. Because they don't want to pay more for their produce. They'll scream about cruel and inhumane treatment for race horses, but not a word on far more barbaric conditions at factory farms for pigs, chickens and cows. Because they like to eat pigs, chickens and cows, want to eat it a lot and don't want it to cost very much money. But horse racing? Oh, that's easy to scream about, because nothing in their lives would change if it were gone. Sigh.

Good point.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Good point.

Hmmm, was Riot the vet that stated Lasix is a performance enhancer and that a lot of horses don't need it?

[The Bid]

That's not standard procedure at all. To treat any horse the way Nehro was treated is not normal procedure, and it was extremely disturbing to watch. You can tell when the blacksmith backed Blasi off he wasn't happy w the feet. The groom was so clueless he was still trying to brush his feet.

I think a lot of Blasi language was just being a knowitall cowboy. That's how he talks, f word is an adjective in Oklahoma.

Very hard to defend that video whether it was shot over 10 months or 10 minutes.

I would like to know what the insurance was on Nehro, who insurer was, and what he was put down for, and who made that decision

Zayat is claiming he had no idea the horses feet were that terrible on twitter

PETA always wants to sensationalize these stories but it's real hard to dispute what was shot on video. The language and disdain for the horses, the willingness to discuss defrauding the irs, uscis, not good. I'm floored

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Hmmm, was Riot the vet that stated Lasix is a performance enhancer and that a lot of horses don't need it?

No, in fact she argued just the opposite on these boards.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

No, in fact she argued just the opposite on these boards.

Yeah, that was sarcasm. I argued the opposite. At least one prominent vet agrees with me.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Yeah, that was sarcasm. I argued the opposite. At least one prominent vet agrees with me.

My apologies. I think all my anger at the carriage horse craziness (holy heck, who knew so much bias against the Irish still existed?) has broken my sarcasm detector.

I did notice that somewhere between the PETA video and at least one news article about it, that "In Europe Lasix is illegal.... on race days" became "In Europe Lasix is illegal." Ladies and gentlemen, the American media at its finest.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

It doesn't hurt to wade into comment threads on other boards and dispel misinformation, I find. As long as you can keep your temper and limit your response to correcting to the specific error the person is stating. As a racing fan, I found the Lasix threads here very, very helpful and they really did reshape my opinion on it.

Unfortunately, it's easy for people to condemn something they have no interest in. They'll scream about undocumented workers on the backstretch, but not a word about undocumented workers harvesting the food they eat. Because they don't want to pay more for their produce. They'll scream about cruel and inhumane treatment for race horses, but not a word on far more barbaric conditions at factory farms for pigs, chickens and cows. Because they like to eat pigs, chickens and cows, want to eat it a lot and don't want it to cost very much money. But horse racing? Oh, that's easy to scream about, because nothing in their lives would change if it were gone. Sigh.

[Antitrust32]

I read the reactions on here and on Facebook before I actually watched the video, so when I went to watch the video, I expected something much worse. Blasi was potty mouthed but passionate about the animals. You can still curse something you love, take my Philly Eagles for example. I really didnt see any abuse either besides maybe Nehro should have been retired long before, I see how Zayat was made to look bad (and the horse should have been retired if the feet were that bad) but besides that, a lot of normal procedures.