PETA undercover in Asmussen's barn - Whoa!

[NTamm1215]

This looks BAD for Asmussen.

[Kasept]

How did Drape miss all of these alleged horrors when Jess Jackson had him writing about Curlin and Rachel Alexandra?

[VOL JACK]

That was disturbing.

I did enjoy listening to the farrier talk to Scott Blasi like he was the scum of the earth.

[Scav]

This is even worse

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJVA2lwW4A

[dean smith]

Jesus Christ. If my non-horse racing friends ever see this video -- after all the time I've spent defending the sport in the wake of the "Luck" cancellation, the Barbaro, Eight Belles, etc. breakdowns, the game "being on the level"...

I'm going to look like an *******.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by dean smith

Jesus Christ. If my non-horse racing friends ever see this video -- after all the time I've spent defending the sport in the wake of the "Luck" cancellation, the Barbaro, Eight Belles, etc. breakdowns, the game "being on the level"...

I'm going to look like an *******.

there is no real defense to this stuff. if its true, it shouldn't be happening.

the truth will set us free. stay clean and you have nothing to hide.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Barry Irwin's Op Ed. piece in TDN today:

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...TOKEN=99952704

Begins on page 10. I guess when you can't make the headlines promoting yourself with your stable, you do it this way.

[VOL JACK]

[GPK]

I thought I cursed a lot. F*cking Blasi makes me look like I'm living at the foot of the cross.

[dean smith]

Check out Ahmed Zayat's Twitter timeline right now. @jazz3162

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Kasept

How did Drape miss all of these alleged horrors when Jess Jackson had him writing about Curlin and Rachel Alexandra?

Does that change this story?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Does that change this story?

What is the story exactly? That horses get Lasix when they train? That horses can have bad feet that need constant attention? That horses colic and die? That undocumented workers are employed on the backstretch? Fold in the sensationalized video.. It's news that owners want to win at Saratoga? That barns are happy to lose underachievers to claims? That outfits utilize various supplements in feeding regimens? That treatment options include pin firing and shockwave therapy? What elements of the 'story' were revelations to you?

[GenuineRisk]

The problem is not that there's nothing in there that is a revelation; it's that there's plenty in there for people who already oppose racing to reaffirm their personal feelings, even though those feelings might not be based in fact. Nehro's got no pulse in one foot! Therefore horse racing is cruel! (Never mind pulse in a foot is actually a bad thing)

In the comment thread on Gawker on the article someone pointed out how vastly superior UK racing is because they don't start racing them until they're four and they race there until they're twelve. Oh, and drugs have ruined the breed. And a chorus of voices chimed in on how awful it is to race horses at age 2, when they're still babies (apparently 3-year-old girls learning to ice skate and do gymnastics is not an issue because shut up that's why).

The movement to ban NYC carriage horses has really brought to light, to me, how divorced people are from the reality of the lives of domesticated animals. They infantilize horses (and dogs and cats) into perpetual victims of evil man. And this dumb PETA thing plays into every one of these preconceived notions about horses and the people who make their livings off of them.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

The problem is not that there's nothing in there that is a revelation; it's that there's plenty in there for people who already oppose racing to reaffirm their personal feelings, even though those feelings might not be based in fact. Nehro's got no pulse in one foot! Therefore horse racing is cruel! (Never mind pulse in a foot is actually a bad thing)

In the comment thread on Gawker on the article someone pointed out how vastly superior UK racing is because they don't start racing them until they're four and they race there until they're twelve. Oh, and drugs have ruined the breed. And a chorus of voices chimed in on how awful it is to race horses at age 2, when they're still babies (apparently 3-year-old girls learning to ice skate and do gymnastics is not an issue because shut up that's why).

The movement to ban NYC carriage horses has really brought to light, to me, how divorced people are from the reality of the lives of domesticated animals. They infantilize horses (and dogs and cats) into perpetual victims of evil man. And this dumb PETA thing plays into every one of these preconceived notions about horses and the people who make their livings off of them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

The problem is not that there's nothing in there that is a revelation; it's that there's plenty in there for people who already oppose racing to reaffirm their personal feelings, even though those feelings might not be based in fact. Nehro's got no pulse in one foot! Therefore horse racing is cruel! (Never mind pulse in a foot is actually a bad thing)
In the comment thread on Gawker on the article someone pointed out how vastly superior UK racing is because they don't start racing them until they're four and they race there until they're twelve. Oh, and drugs have ruined the breed. And a chorus of voices chimed in on how awful it is to race horses at age 2, when they're still babies (apparently 3-year-old girls learning to ice skate and do gymnastics is not an issue because shut up that's why).

The movement to ban NYC carriage horses has really brought to light, to me, how divorced people are from the reality of the lives of domesticated animals. They infantilize horses (and dogs and cats) into perpetual victims of evil man. And this dumb PETA thing plays into every one of these preconceived notions about horses and the people who make their livings off of them.

excellent post, especially the part about the pulse. but most people don't know that, so it's a great dog whistle.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

What is the story exactly? That horses get Lasix when they train? That horses can have bad feet that need constant attention? That horses colic and die? That undocumented workers are employed on the backstretch? Fold in the sensationalized video.. It's news that owners want to win at Saratoga? That barns are happy to lose underachievers to claims? That outfits utilize various supplements in feeding regimens? That treatment options include pin firing and shockwave therapy? What elements of the 'story' were revelations to you?

The post is insensitive to the shock that many horse fans on this noard and all over are feeling today after watching 9 minutes of hell .Most arent as close to the game as you including many on this board. Teach without subjectivity. Expose to create knowledge. Simply PuPu'ing appears as a typical sweep it under the rug response.

You know what I am talking about

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The post is insensitive to the shock that many horse fans on this noard and all over are feeling today after watching 9 minutes of hell .Most arent as close to the game as you including many on this board. Teach without subjectivity. Expose to create knowledge. Simply PuPu'ing appears as a typical sweep it under the rug response.

You know what I am talking about

The people on this board are closer to the game than perhaps any elsewhere and will see through the sensationalized, edited-for-effect video and agenda-driven report. I do my best to teach and expose and promote the game 750 hours a year on radio and 24/7 here, but since I'm too close to be subjective, I'll let terrific insights like Doug's & GenRisk's take it from here.

[bare it all]

This is just ridiculous crap trudged up for no good reason. So Blasi has a potty mouth? He's not running for election - he's a damned horseman. Nehro had bad feet? So do many thoroughbreds. It's not even a racing thing as much a breed thing. Horses get Lasix?? No joke. Illegals work on the backside for little pay?? No kidding!! They do in a ton of other industries as well. I don't find anything presented here earth shattering news. I'm just a fan and know these things happen at the tracks. Thoroughbred racers are athletes. They have bumps and bruises and pain. Human athletes do the same things. Injections in joints. Supplements they may not need. It happens to get an edge.

Oh, and the buzzer discussion? Sounded like blasi was drunk and could have been taken out of context or joking. Also Lukas and Stevens along with others have spoken outright about the "buzzer" days. I think even Tony Black has discussed the prevalent use of machines at some tracks in the past. Nothing enlightening here.

The only awe and shock that will be happening is from those who are under the impression that the world is candy coated and nothing bad ever happens.

I can't wait to find out who this mole was. You know that part will come out. Hope PETA paid well and the Times is looking for help. This chick won't ever be allowed to set foot in a barn again.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Kasept

What is the story exactly? That horses get Lasix when they train? That horses can have bad feet that need constant attention? That horses colic and die? That undocumented workers are employed on the backstretch? Fold in the sensationalized video.. It's news that owners want to win at Saratoga? That barns are happy to lose underachievers to claims? That outfits utilize various supplements in feeding regimens? That treatment options include pin firing and shockwave therapy? What elements of the 'story' were revelations to you?

I think its going to be very hard for someone who may want to get into the sport watch that video and then if they were to read your statements and have to understand that this is just normal operating procedure.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I think its going to be very hard for someone who may want to get into the sport watch that video and then if they were to read your statements and have to understand that this is just normal operating procedure.

Very fair.. But have them actually spend time and get a complete picture of normal operating procedure. What's presented are snapshots specifically chosen to provoke negative reaction.