A question on Easy Goer...

[MISTERGEE]

Was There At Gulfstream. Breeders Cup, Sunday Silence And Easy Goer. One Of Durkins Best Calls Ever. Super Memories Down The Stretch Neck And Neck

[SundayStar]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

Was There At Gulfstream. Breeders Cup, Sunday Silence And Easy Goer. One Of Durkins Best Calls Ever. Super Memories Down The Stretch Neck And Neck

i've seen it somewhere that sunday silence received a 124 for his 89 classic. i would suppose that easy goer's was 123 or 124 for that race. i haven't seen figures for any other of their races. i've always wondered what the '90 hollywood gold cup figure was where criminal type beat sunday by a long nose and the final time was 1:59 something.

[Bravado2112]

Long-time lurker. Figured I'd sign up since I actually have this information saved and it's pretty cool to look at for historical perspective. Beyer Figs were available via Bloodstock Research in those days. I always wished they would make some of the older figures available in some kind of publication - I think a lot of racing fans would love to see this stuff.

EASY GOER (check out his #'s at 2)
Suburban - 119
Met Mile - 114
Gold Stage - 111

BC Classic - 124
JC Gold Cup - 120
Woodward - 115
Travers - 121
Whitney - 119
Belmont - 122
Preakness - 113
Derby - 97
Wood - 110 (This figure was very controversial - the raw # was much higher)
Gotham - 118
Swale - 110

BC Juv - 100
Champagne - 116
Cowdin - 110
Allowance - 113
MSW - 102
MSW - 86

[Bravado2112]

Sunday Silence

Hol Gold Cup - 118
Californian - 110

BC Classic - 124
Super Derby - 106
Swaps - 107
Belmont - 113
Preakness - 113
Derby - 101
SA Derby - 116
San Felipe - 107
Allow - 98

Allow - 93
MSW - 102
MSW - 78

[Bravado2112]

While we're at it...

Lady's Secret (in 86)
Beldame - 109
Ruffian - 119
Maskette - 116
Woodward - 120 (Thus giving Precisionist a 128)
Whitney - 118

Criminal Type
Hol Gold Cup - 118
Met Mile - 117
Pim Special - 117
Oaklawn - 108
San Bernadino - 115
SA Handicap - 115
San Antonio - 113
San Pasqual - 111

Opening Verse
Hol Gold Cup - 113
Pim Special - 112
Oaklawn Handicap - 121
Razorback - 115
Allowance - 124

[blackthroatedwind]

If Easy Goer ran those numbers today sheet players would be telling us he was as good as dead going into his 3YO season.

Thanks for posting those numbers. Seeing what really good horses were able to do puts these flash in the pan and unproven horses in perspective. The really good horses showed it over time and did it again and again. Easy Goer's 3YO season puts our recent darlings to shame.

Wow, Discreet Cat won the Jerome and Cigar Mile. Easy Goer won the Swale, Gotham, Wood, Belmont, Whitney, Travers, Woodward and JCGC, with seconds in the Derby, Preakness and BC Classic. OUCH!

[Bravado2112]

FYI - Quiet American broke 120 when he won his AQU mile race in 1990. 124 I think. A couple more from 1990:

Unbridled
BC Classic - 116
Super Derby - 106
Allowance - 115
Belmont - 96
Preakness - 115
Derby 115

Bayakoa
BC Distaff - 113
Spinster - 113
Chula Vista - 107
San Diego - 105
Milady - 102
Hawthorne - 100
Apple Blossom - 114
Santa Margarita - 110
BC Distaff 89 - 116
Ruffian - 115

Go For Wand
Beldame - 117
Maskette - 105
Alabama - 111
Test - 114
Mother Goose - 104

Fastest BC Classics since 1988:
Ghostzapper - 124
Sunday Silence/Easy Goer - 124
Alysheba - 122
Skip Away - 120
Black Tie Affair - 120

Fastest Route Figs 1992 - 2001:
Formal Gold (Whitney) - 126
Will's Way (Whitney) - 126
Gentleman (Pim Special) - 126
Bertrando (Woodward) - 125
Formal Gold (Woodward) - 125
Skip Away (Pim Special) - 125
Formal Gold (Iselin) - 124

[SundayStar]

thanks for the info bravado. i guess the late 80's early 90's were the good ole days...........

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If Easy Goer ran those numbers today sheet players would be telling us he was as good as dead going into his 3YO season.

Thanks for posting those numbers. Seeing what really good horses were able to do puts these flash in the pan and unproven horses in perspective. The really good horses showed it over time and did it again and again. Easy Goer's 3YO season puts our recent darlings to shame.

Wow, Discreet Cat won the Jerome and Cigar Mile. Easy Goer won the Swale, Gotham, Wood, Belmont, Whitney, Travers, Woodward and JCGC, with seconds in the Derby, Preakness and BC Classic. OUCH!

And Sunday Silence won the San Felipe, Santa Anita Derby, Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Super Derby, BC Classic, and Californian, with 2nds in the Belmont, Swaps, and Hollywood Gold Cup. Its a damned shame they shipped him to Japan. I loved that horse. What a year that was from the '88 BC-'89 BC...

[Antitrust32]

Formal Gold was a monster.. check out those beyers, 3 of the top beyers in that group.

[SundayStar]

Originally Posted by philcski

And Sunday Silence won the San Felipe, Santa Anita Derby, Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Super Derby, BC Classic, and Californian, with 2nds in the Belmont, Swaps, and Hollywood Gold Cup. Its a damned shame they shipped him to Japan. I loved that horse. What a year that was from the '88 BC-'89 BC...

yeah, his blood wasn't blue enough and he had sickled hocks. it's funny, i doubt there's any bluer blood in japan than his.

cesario has sickled hocks too and that girl could fly.

[ArlJim78]

Nice posts. Puts things in perspctive. Everyone should look back at stuff like this before throwing around the "great" adjective.

Good posts Bravado

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Bravado2112

Long-time lurker. Figured I'd sign up since I actually have this information saved and it's pretty cool to look at for historical perspective. Beyer Figs were available via Bloodstock Research in those days. I always wished they would make some of the older figures available in some kind of publication - I think a lot of racing fans would love to see this stuff.

EASY GOER (check out his #'s at 2)
Suburban - 119
Met Mile - 114
Gold Stage - 111

BC Classic - 124
JC Gold Cup - 120
Woodward - 115
Travers - 121
Whitney - 119
Belmont - 122
Preakness - 113
Derby - 97
Wood - 110 (This figure was very controversial - the raw # was much higher)
Gotham - 118
Swale - 110

BC Juv - 100
Champagne - 116
Cowdin - 110
Allowance - 113
MSW - 102
MSW - 86

While u are checking out his numbers as a 2yo, go pull up King Glorious' numbers. He was the fastest 2yo of 1988 and should have been the Eclipse winner, not Easy Goer. I don't have the Beyer's but I believe his final race times were:

4.5f-51 1/5
5.5f-1:01 and change
6f-1:08 4/5
7f-1:21 1/5
8f-1:35 3/5 sloppy track