3/1 (AQU): Top Flight (G2), Gotham, Tom Fool (G3's)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Samraat is clearly better than Uncle Sigh right now. There is no reason to think any differently.

No reason?

If only things were so black and white.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No reason?

If only things were so black and white.

Samraat has won against Uncle Sigh twice in a row. He won pressing him up front, and he won stalking from behind. The jockey never used the whip too often from what I could see, and he even won with a wide-wide trip, the most hated trip in dirt racing for a speed horse, and on the same exact track.

Maybe in the future Uncle Sigh will improve more than Samraat. I'm not seeing how Uncle Sigh is better right now.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Samraat has won against Uncle Sigh twice in a row. He won pressing him up front, and he won stalking from behind. The jockey never used the whip too often from what I could see, and he even won with a wide-wide trip, the most hated trip in dirt racing for a speed horse, and on the same exact track.

Maybe in the future Uncle Sigh will improve more than Samraat. I'm not seeing how Uncle Sigh is better right now.

Sorry, two relatively close finishes, between two lightly raced horses, where one had the benefit of the outside stalking position, tells me nothing definitive whatsoever.

To me, they are two talented 3YOs, and the one that gets the better trip will likely be the winner when they meet assuming each runs his race.

Or maybe you think that definitively, had Samraat been engaging outside the whole race, he still would have won if Uncle Sigh, who had been able to stalk outside, put him in tight between horses during a stretch battle?

No, I don't know the answer either. But, I think it's at least food for thought.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sorry, two relatively close finishes, between two lightly raced horses, where one had the benefit of the outside stalking position, tells me nothing definitive whatsoever.

To me, they are two talented 3YOs, and the one that gets the better trip will likely be the winner when they meet assuming each runs his race.

Or maybe you think that definitively, had Samraat been engaging outside the whole race, he still would have won if Uncle Sigh, who had been able to stalk outside, put him in tight between horses during a stretch battle?

No, I don't know the answer either. But, I think it's at least food for thought.

That's what I have been saying. You put it better though.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Samraat has won against Uncle Sigh twice in a row. He won pressing him up front, and he won stalking from behind. The jockey never used the whip too often from what I could see, and he even won with a wide-wide trip, the most hated trip in dirt racing for a speed horse, and on the same exact track.

Maybe in the future Uncle Sigh will improve more than Samraat. I'm not seeing how Uncle Sigh is better right now.

I'll ask you another question ( anyone can check in )...if you offered both horses to 10 top trainers...how many do you think would choose Samraat and how many Uncle Sigh?

Chuck...feel free to weigh in ( surely you have an opinion ).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll ask you another question ( anyone can check in )...if you offered both horses to 10 top trainers...how many do you think would choose Samraat and how many Uncle Sigh?

Chuck...feel free to weigh in ( surely you have an opinion ).

Flip a coin.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll ask you another question ( anyone can check in )...if you offered both horses to 10 top trainers...how many do you think would choose Samraat and how many Uncle Sigh?

Chuck...feel free to weigh in ( surely you have an opinion ).

All 10 for Samraat. Just kidding.

I'd still think most of them would prefer Samraat by a slight margin, as it's nice to have an undefeated G1 quality horse in the barn. They're both G1 types though, so I realize they'd be happy with either.