2013-2014 NBA Season

NTamm1215 · #1 02-24-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Harden's playing like he's half shot in the a$$ tonight. Ugly.

He injured his elbow (nothing terribly severe) vs. Golden St. on Thursday night and was not quite himself early in last night's game. Amazingly, he has picked up 10 fouls in the Rockets' last two games, which is a positive sign that he's even attempting to play defense.

Dwight Howard played great and has been doing so on a nightly basis. He won't get any credit for it because of how hated he's become in the league, and that's a good thing. He plays better as a big fish in a small pond.

declansharbor · #2 02-24-2014, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He injured his elbow (nothing terribly severe) vs. Golden St. on Thursday night and was not quite himself early in last night's game. Amazingly, he has picked up 10 fouls in the Rockets' last two games, which is a positive sign that he's even attempting to play defense.

Dwight Howard played great and has been doing so on a nightly basis. He won't get any credit for it because of how hated he's become in the league, and that's a good thing. He plays better as a big fish in a small pond.

Agreed on all counts, and to be fair, after I posted that last night, he pulled it together on both ends of the court. He made a few horrible passes, which prompted me to jump the gun.

Howard looked phenominal last night.

They'll likely be a very tough draw any team in the West.

cmorioles · #3 02-24-2014, 10:24 AM

It think you guys are delusional if you think the west is up for grabs. Of course OKC is going to struggle for a while with Westbrook coming back, but once the rust is off, they are still the clear favorite.

RockHardTen1985 · #4 02-24-2014, 06:06 PM

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It think you guys are delusional if you think the west is up for grabs. Of course OKC is going to struggle for a while with Westbrook coming back, but once the rust is off, they are still the clear favorite.

OKC is the best team, but they are not that much better then Houston or GS IMO. Also I dont really believe in the Clippers, but they match up very well with OKC.

Cannon Shell · #5 02-24-2014, 07:42 PM

Tonight is a new low for the 76'ers. Getting hammered by the dreadful Bucks by 30 in the 3rd quarter.

RockHardTen1985 · #6 02-24-2014, 07:57 PM

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Tonight is a new low for the 76'ers. Getting hammered by the dreadful Bucks by 30 in the 3rd quarter.

And in other news, Melo jacks up 15 first half shots.

Cannon Shell · #7 02-25-2014, 05:39 AM

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And in other news, Melo jacks up 15 first half shots.

44pts
9 reb
4 assists

cmorioles · #8 02-24-2014, 09:44 PM

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OKC is the best team, but they are not that much better then Houston or GS IMO. Also I dont really believe in the Clippers, but they match up very well with OKC.

I'm not buying any of that. GS causes some match up problems, the other teams not so much. If you want to base anything on how they are playing right now with Westbrook rusty as hell, you're making a mistake.

OKC swept the Clippers last year. This year they had a nice lead before Ibaka was wrongly ejected (they even rescinded the technical later), thrashed them next time, then there was Sunday. If I had to pick one team that could beat them in the West in a 7 game series, it would be Golden State, and then next maybe Memphis if they even make it. I'd be surprised if the Clippers did, and shocked if Houston did.

I guess you can't really can't out the Spurs, though they look bad against the Thunder for two years now. But the playoffs are different, and they have Pop.

RockHardTen1985 · #9 02-25-2014, 05:40 AM

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I'm not buying any of that. GS causes some match up problems, the other teams not so much. If you want to base anything on how they are playing right now with Westbrook rusty as hell, you're making a mistake.

OKC swept the Clippers last year. This year they had a nice lead before Ibaka was wrongly ejected (they even rescinded the technical later), thrashed them next time, then there was Sunday. If I had to pick one team that could beat them in the West in a 7 game series, it would be Golden State, and then next maybe Memphis if they even make it. I'd be surprised if the Clippers did, and shocked if Houston did.

I guess you can't really can't out the Spurs, though they look bad against the Thunder for two years now. But the playoffs are different, and they have Pop.

I think the Spurs amazing run is over. This is not like the East where there are literally only 2 teams. 6 teams can win the West and Golden St, last year gave the Spurs a real run as a huge underdog. I rank SA 6th most likely team to win the West, I guess they can still do it, but I doubt it.
I know your an OKC fan, but Westbrook is world class. These issues are not going to go away because Westbrook is an alpha. He wants to be the man. They were actually better without him. When I said Houston was the best in the West, I said right now. 9-1 in there last 10. That could change though, I think it was 6 weeks ago when GS had won like 12 in a row. If the West playoffs started today, I think OKC would go out round 2 to the Clippers. Thats just my opinion though.

cmorioles · #10 02-25-2014, 09:16 AM

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I know your an OKC fan, but Westbrook is world class. These issues are not going to go away because Westbrook is an alpha. He wants to be the man. They were actually better without him. When I said Houston was the best in the West, I said right now. 9-1 in there last 10. That could change though, I think it was 6 weeks ago when GS had won like 12 in a row. If the West playoffs started today, I think OKC would go out round 2 to the Clippers. Thats just my opinion though.

This is the stuff that is just silly. You watch too much First Take I guess. Before going out at Christmas, Westbrook was playing the best basketball of his life and racking up assists. He has no problem deferring when it is warranted. They were 21-4 with Westbrook, but they were better without him? Come on, short memories.

The biggest problem the Thunder have is they still trot out two guys to start that are horrible on offense, and they often dig a hole for themselves because of it. Good teams exploit those two. They totally ignore Perkins, and only pay a little attention to Thabo. It is tough to change until next year, because those guys still need to play minutes. If you make them bench players, you will virtually never score with the second unit. KD/Russ can overcome them somewhat, Reggie and Lamb, not so much.

Little known fact, Perkins almost NEVER is on the court without KD. Brooks tries to hide his total lack of any offensive skill.

Duvalier · #11 02-24-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

It think you guys are delusional if you think the west is up for grabs. Of course OKC is going to struggle for a while with Westbrook coming back, but once the rust is off, they are still the clear favorite.

At least they're getting time to rest up and practice, you know with their two games since the All Star break so far...some teams like Detroit have already played five.

cmorioles · #12 02-24-2014, 09:36 PM

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At least they're getting time to rest up and practice, you know with their two games since the All Star break so far...some teams like Detroit have already played five.

Don't you think that all evens out? I don't even think it is a good thing to be honest.

Duvalier · #13 03-09-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

It think you guys are delusional if you think the west is up for grabs. Of course OKC is going to struggle for a while with Westbrook coming back, but once the rust is off, they are still the clear favorite.

The rust is off...just a different team when Durant defers to Westbrook.

Cannon Shell · #14 03-10-2014, 04:40 AM

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The rust is off...just a different team when Durant defers to Westbrook.

They gave up 114 points to the Lakers and 128 to Phoenix and before that 107 to Memphis, 114 to Cleveland and 125 to the Clippers and are playing without 2 starters. Sefalosha and Perkins dont score much but they play defined roles that they havent been able to quite match since they got hurt. Naturally everyone blames Westbrook but offense isnt the real issue here.

Duvalier · #15 03-10-2014, 07:36 AM

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They gave up 114 points to the Lakers and 128 to Phoenix and before that 107 to Memphis, 114 to Cleveland and 125 to the Clippers and are playing without 2 starters. Sefalosha and Perkins dont score much but they play defined roles that they havent been able to quite match since they got hurt. Naturally everyone blames Westbrook but offense isnt the real issue here.

By advanced metrics, weren't the Thunder a worse team with Perkins on the floor, and wasn't Perkins one of the worst players in the league? Those stats are flawed and overvalued.

Cannon Shell · #16 03-10-2014, 07:40 AM

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By advanced metrics, weren't the Thunder a worse team with Perkins on the floor, and wasn't Perkins one of the worst players in the league? Those stats are are flawed and overvalued.

Offensively he dragged them down yes but when you start Adams, you weaken the 2nd team because he isnt on it and they play really undersized.