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Old 02-23-2014, 01:31 AM
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I didn't have a dog in the fight, but don't think there should have been a DQ.

Bad day for the single ticket holder, good day for the track.

Oddly, the eventual winner, who went off at 39-1 paid $9k(for .50) less than the 15-1 horse who was dq'd would have paid in the P5.
How is the Pick 5 that paid less is good for the track? The takeout is fixed regardless who wins.

However, having the Rainbow 6 carryover at 1.3 million is a good promotion for the track and was possibly the incentive for the DQ.
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Old 02-23-2014, 03:41 AM
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How is the Pick 5 that paid less is good for the track? The takeout is fixed regardless who wins.

However, having the Rainbow 6 carryover at 1.3 million is a good promotion for the track and was possibly the incentive for the DQ.
Again, I didn't say the P5 that paid less is good for the track. I said it was a bad day for the single ticket holder in the P6 and that was good for the track. I guess that last sentence could have been clearer, referring to the P5 instead of the P6.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:35 AM
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However, having the Rainbow 6 carryover at 1.3 million is a good promotion for the track and was possibly the incentive for the DQ.
It is also great for the bettors, except the one bettor who had the lone ticket.

Call it being politically correct.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:49 AM
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Unfortunately nothing is cut and dry when it comes to the stewards but how can anyone here say that it was the worst call ever after watching the head on? Come on people that horse needed to come down! Whether one person stands to cash big should have no bearing on it.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:59 AM
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http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...22214USA12.pdf

According to the chartcaller this was the right call

If you bet the horse who finished 2nd and the chart reads "bothered rival stretch" for the winner and you lose by a neck and dont come down?

The conspiracy theory is ridiculous.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:21 AM
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Couldn't find the head-on replay but this Trakus Aerial view is a good one if you haven't seen it, you can FF it.

http://tmedia.trakus.com/dsi/dsivide....wmv?WMCache=1
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:53 AM
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http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...22214USA12.pdf

According to the chartcaller this was the right call

If you bet the horse who finished 2nd and the chart reads "bothered rival stretch" for the winner and you lose by a neck and dont come down?

The conspiracy theory is ridiculous.
I agree about the conspiracy theory being ridiculous, but so is citing the chart caller as evidence.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:12 PM
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I agree about the conspiracy theory being ridiculous, but so is citing the chart caller as evidence.
Really? The official transcript of the race is a ridiculous reference point?

So an impartial view of the race by a professional with years of experience, a good vantage point, and access to various camera angles of the race isn't a valid source in your eyes?

Please explain how the chart callers interpretation has no validity since it is his job to describe the race for the official record?

If there is a hearing about this incident it is a sure bet that the chart will be referred to as "evidence".
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:15 PM
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Really? The official transcript of the race is a ridiculous reference point?

So an impartial view of the race by a professional with years of experience, a good vantage point, and access to various camera angles of the race isn't a valid source in your eyes?

Please explain how the chart callers interpretation has no validity since it is his job to describe the race for the official record?

If there is a hearing about this incident it is a sure bet that the chart will be referred to as "evidence".
That would all be well and good if it were realistic, but I've seen too many situations where the chart caller goes out of the way to agree with the stewards no matter how questionable (or even bad) the call.

Are you really going to pretend all chart callers do a good job? Do they really use all the camera angles available and still get the chart out in 15 minutes?
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