2013-2014 NBA Season - Page 45

Duvalier · #**881** 02-09-2014, 12:07 PM

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Hard to judge a coach when he is handed a team like this. Shoot first PG, loose cannon as a big FA signing, not extending Monroes contract...

Dumars has made a bunch of questionable signings the last 5 years though he has drafted pretty well. Just trying to figure out who they want to be.

Ended up the fall guy. If anyone can fix that mess, my choice would be Lionel Hollins.

http://nba.si.com/2014/02/09/pistons...aurice-cheeks/

Cannon Shell · #**882** 02-09-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier

Ended up the fall guy. If anyone can fix that mess, my choice would be Lionel Hollins.

http://nba.si.com/2014/02/09/pistons...aurice-cheeks/

On Dumars watch - 8 coaching changes in 13 seasons.

Duvalier · #**883** 02-09-2014, 03:16 PM

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On Dumars watch - 8 coaching changes in 13 seasons.

Looks like it was the owner's decision to axe Cheeks and Dumars had no real say. What's funny is they just won two in a row and have been playing relatively better as of late. I'd have to guess that if they don't turn things around dramatically in the second half...Dumars is pretty much done.

cmorioles · #**884** 02-09-2014, 06:09 PM

Durant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melo.

That was ugly, especially since they were matched up on each other most of the game.

Cannon Shell · #**885** 02-09-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier

Looks like it was the owner's decision to axe Cheeks and Dumars had no real say. What's funny is they just won two in a row and have been playing relatively better as of late. I'd have to guess that if they don't turn things around dramatically in the second half...Dumars is pretty much done.

Dumars probably needs to go somewhere new if the owner is calling the shots. Can't end well. The bad thing for this team is that they get on a little roll which in the East isnt that tough as tankapalooza intensifies. The the owner will think that "his" moves actually helped and that spells doom. Just look at the Knicks

Cannon Shell · #**886** 02-09-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Durant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melo.

That was ugly, especially since they were matched up on each other most of the game.

Asking Anthony to cover Durant is always going to end badly because he is out of position guarding perimeter players. Problem for the Knicks is that they have no wings with any size. Look at the starting line up. Felton (PG), Prigioni (PG), Chandler (C) and Shumpert (SG). Subs are Smith (SG), Stoudamire (PF), Hardaway (SG) and Tyler (PF). That forces Anthony to chase which is obviously not his strength. Supposed this is the reason that they signed World Peace but has been hurt or atrocious. It is a big reason that Woodson's type of switching defense hasn't been effective at all. You have 2 plus defenders (Chandler and Shumpert but against a team like OKC they aren't matched up against offensive threats which takes away from their strength. When you are starting a fat 6'2" guy and a old, 5'11" white guy in your backcourt, and a 6'4" guy as your SF why are we surprised when mismatches materialize when they switch? Scary thing is the Knicks have played better since they went to this starting lineup though it would be hard to play worse than they did earlier in the season.

Duvalier · #**887** 02-09-2014, 06:40 PM

Did anyone see The Lenny Cooke Story on Showtime? What a fall...

cmorioles · #**888** 02-09-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Asking Anthony to cover Durant is always going to end badly because he is out of position guarding perimeter players. Problem for the Knicks is that they have no wings with any size. Look at the starting line up. Felton (PG), Prigioni (PG), Chandler (C) and Shumpert (SG). Subs are Smith (SG), Stoudamire (PF), Hardaway (SG) and Tyler (PF). That forces Anthony to chase which is obviously not his strength. Supposed this is the reason that they signed World Peace but has been hurt or atrocious. It is a big reason that Woodson's type of switching defense hasn't been effective at all. You have 2 plus defenders (Chandler and Shumpert but against a team like OKC they aren't matched up against offensive threats which takes away from their strength. When you are starting a fat 6'2" guy and a old, 5'11" white guy in your backcourt, and a 6'4" guy as your SF why are we surprised when mismatches materialize when they switch? Scary thing is the Knicks have played better since they went to this starting lineup though it would be hard to play worse than they did earlier in the season.

Aren't they both small forwards? I guess if you say Anthony is a 4 he could have guarded Ibaka, but that wouldn't be pretty either.

I'm not really knocking Melo on D. Nobody can guard KD these days. What impressed me was Durant on defense. He has been criticized for his defense, but it has actually been pretty good for a few years, and now it is really good. He completely frustrated Anthony, and he can guard 2 through 4 these days. Obviously that isn't his focus some nights, he can't do everything all the time. But when he needs to lock down, he does it.

RockHardTen1985 · #**889** 02-09-2014, 07:08 PM

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Aren't they both small forwards? I guess if you say Anthony is a 4 he could have guarded Ibaka, but that wouldn't be pretty either.

I'm not really knocking Melo on D. Nobody can guard KD these days. What impressed me was Durant on defense. He has been criticized for his defense, but it has actually been pretty good for a few years, and now it is really good. He completely frustrated Anthony, and he can guard 2 through 4 these days. Obviously that isn't his focus some nights, he can't do everything all the time. But when he needs to lock down, he does it.

Please knock him. He guards no one.

Cannon Shell · #**890** 02-09-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Aren't they both small forwards? I guess if you say Anthony is a 4 he could have guarded Ibaka, but that wouldn't be pretty either.

I'm not really knocking Melo on D. Nobody can guard KD these days. What impressed me was Durant on defense. He has been criticized for his defense, but it has actually been pretty good for a few years, and now it is really good. He completely frustrated Anthony, and he can guard 2 through 4 these days. Obviously that isn't his focus some nights, he can't do everything all the time. But when he needs to lock down, he does it.

People think Anthony is a 3 but he is really a 4, especially on defense. Ibaka is more of a spot up jump shooter despite being a PF. Durant is a pretty unstoppable.

cmorioles · #**891** 02-09-2014, 08:27 PM

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People think Anthony is a 3 but he is really a 4, especially on defense. Ibaka is more of a spot up jump shooter despite being a PF. Durant is a pretty unstoppable.

Ibaka has gotten better in the post, especially against guys he has a size advantage against. If Anthony were on him he'd just hit the boards on offense and dominate him, seen it tried before with smaller guys.

Durant is getting scary good with the pass too. If he were passing to any actual shooters his numbers would be insane, at least another 1.5 assists a game.

Duvalier · #**892** 02-09-2014, 09:09 PM

Uh...end of the 1st in LA and it's the Clippers up on the Sixers 46-15. This must be part of the Eastern Conference tankapalooza you were talking about Chuck.

Cannon Shell · #**893** 02-09-2014, 09:32 PM

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Ibaka has gotten better in the post, especially against guys he has a size advantage against. If Anthony were on him he'd just hit the boards on offense and dominate him, seen it tried before with smaller guys.

Durant is getting scary good with the pass too. If he were passing to any actual shooters his numbers would be insane, at least another 1.5 assists a game.

He has no real size advantage against Anthony. If Anthony were guarding him he would do exactly as he does now. Pick and rolls and pop out for jumpers. OKC doesnt change what they do, they play the same stuff against everyone.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...shooting/2014/

Cannon Shell · #**894** 02-09-2014, 09:44 PM

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Uh...end of the 1st in LA and it's the Clippers up on the Sixers 46-15. This must be part of the Eastern Conference tankapalooza you were talking about Chuck.

Adam Silver better figure out how to make losing less advantageous. How would you feel if you'd pay full price for a ticket to tonights game and they are in garbage time in the 2nd quarter? Clippers tickets arent cheap.

Sixers shot 8-51 in the 1st half against a team that isnt exactly known for defense. If they werent 13-13 from the line it would be even more embarrassing.
69-30 at halftime.

smh

Cannon Shell · #**895** 02-09-2014, 09:51 PM

+/- is a flawed stat but the Clippers/76'ers game has some incredible numbers.

Thad young is -37 in 17 minutes
Evan Turner is -33 in 20
Moultrie is -11 in 4 mins

Cannon Shell · #**896** 02-09-2014, 10:09 PM

89-33 1/2 way through 3rd

9-60 from the field.

Young is 5-14

Rest of team is 4 for 46

Duvalier · #**897** 02-09-2014, 10:13 PM

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89-33 1/2 way through 3rd

9-60 from the field.

Young is 5-14

Rest of team is 4 for 46

That's just embarrassing.

Cannon Shell · #**898** 02-09-2014, 10:16 PM

Sixers on 14-0 run

Still down 40

Cannon Shell · #**899** 02-09-2014, 10:22 PM

Orlando is 16-37
Sixers are 15-36

Orlando just beat OKC and Indiana in back to back games.

Sixers are down 49 heading into 4th quarter to Clipper's

What team do you think will have more wins at the end of the year?

Cannon Shell · #**900** 02-09-2014, 10:22 PM

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That's just embarrassing.

100-51 after 3