2013 Eclipse Finalists

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52864

the other 9998 things in racing (or thereabouts) also get discussed on this board. and having people without much clue regarding racing having a say in racing related things is a problem. especially if one has an agenda, joe drape is one that comes to mind.
people discussing voting doesn't necessarily equate to 'outrage'. it's just one of myriad topics discussed on here.

My mistake, one person mentioned it. I wonder how many people even realize why it is an issue. But there are a dozen posts about Authenticity not being a finalist for an award she isn't winning anyway.

Sorry, but one seems like an important issue to me and one doesn't. Just my opinion of course and I enjoy all of the discussions here. But one actually impacted people and one didn't.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

My mistake, one person mentioned it and no one else had anything to say about it. But there are a dozen posts about Authenticity not being a finalist for an award she isn't winning anyway.

Sorry, but one seems like an important issue to me and one doesn't. Just my opinion of course and I enjoy all of the discussions here. But one actually impacted people and one didn't.

The reason it's important is because it's a bad message that is a direct disincentive to the way in which Authenticity was campaigned. She ran 9x from Jan-Nov as opposed to horses who ran wholly incomplete seasons. Authenticity also deserved to be recognized because rather than give up on the mare after a series of setbacks and simply breed her, the connections waited out her physical issues and gave her a chance to fulfill her potential. That's also a positive message that deserved acknowledgement. And as Chuck points out, her being overlooked is an indictment of the way things are run and of those that are supposed to be taking the sport seriously.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by Kasept

The reason it's important is because it's a bad message that is a direct disincentive to the way in which Authenticity was campaigned. She ran 9x from Jan-Nov as opposed to horses who ran wholly incomplete seasons. Authenticity also deserved to be recognized because rather than give up on the mare after a series of setbacks and simply breed her, the connections waited out her physical issues and gave her a chance to fulfill her potential. That's also a positive message that deserved acknowledgement. And as Chuck points out, her being overlooked is an indictment of the way things are run and of those that are supposed to be taking the sport seriously.

Sorry, but I don't agree Steve about its' importance.

I'm glad they waited out her issues and actually raced her, because that is what racehorses do, but are we in such bad shape that we need to send positive messages to connections for doing that?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

My mistake, one person mentioned it. I wonder how many people even realize why it is an issue. But there are a dozen posts about Authenticity not being a finalist for an award she isn't winning anyway.

Sorry, but one seems like an important issue to me and one doesn't. Just my opinion of course and I enjoy all of the discussions here. But one actually impacted people and one didn't.

a dozen? and of course horses included or left out will be discussed in a thread about eclipse awards.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a dozen? and of course horses included or left out will be discussed in a thread about eclipse awards.

It was 10, not 12. Got me.

My point remains the same. I wonder if there would have been this kind of outrage had Steve not said anything. I follow the sport very closely and until Steve said something I didn't even realize she was omitted, because I never even considered her a winner of the award.

Maybe that is what happened to the voters. I don't know. Just so there is no confusion, I understand why this is an issue, I just wish issues that actually impact people were discussed with this much passion.

[10 pnt move up]

This happens every year, obviously this is more personal for Steve in this case, his comments should be viewed as such.

There are a lot of people voting that do not take it seriously or do it fairly, hard to hold these awards with any value given that light.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

It was 10, not 12. Got me.

My point remains the same. I wonder if there would have been this kind of outrage had Steve not said anything. I follow the sport very closely and until Steve said something I didn't even realize she was omitted, because I never even considered her a winner of the award.

Maybe that is what happened to the voters. I don't know. Just so there is no confusion, I understand why this is an issue, I just wish issues that actually impact people were discussed with this much passion.

they are, or even more so.

i have never understood why people jump into a discussion only to say it shouldn't be taking place, or that other things are more important.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they are, or even more so.

i have never understood why people jump into a discussion only to say it shouldn't be taking place, or that other things are more important.

They are? Where?

As for your second paragraph that isn't what I did.

[Danzig]

you got me. i'm sure all the impassioned discussions we've had here over the years on a variety of subjects is a figment of my overblown imagination.

have a great day.