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Its not even like anyone had a bad trip to blame it on, well except Invasor who lost a lotta ground on the turns and ran against the bias off a layoff that was NOT BY DESIGN that also hindered him. You'd listen to folks now and you just can't believe that they haven't accepted the outcome. |
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![]() I'm convinced Invasor is the Rodney Dangerfield of racing, never getting respect. The only horse to have any claim on him is Discreet Cat because of the Dubai race and I only dream that we get to see that rematch.
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"Pound for pound the greatest sportsman Britain has ever produced." John Francome on A. P. McCoy. |
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Nothing in my prior statements denigrated George Washington. Why did they send him to the Classic, did they not think he could stay? Also you have contradicted yourself. You are telling me that you can't make season long ratings based on one race, the BCC, yet you are making season long ratings for GW and Bernardini based on one race, (The QEII and the Travers). Last edited by ArlJim78 : 11-29-2006 at 09:23 AM. |
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![]() Attempting to compare a grass race run in Europe to a dirt race run in America borders on total lunacy.
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I'm just using the QEII and the Travers as these two races represented the best performances in the world in 2006 (both 132). Also Bernardini's efforts in the JCGC (131+) and Jim Dandy (130+, from a form perspective, were better than his effort in the BCC. Now I will admit that these races don't represent the most solid of form, so it is difficult to make hard and fast conclusions. Also, Invasor's profile remains progressive, so it's impossible to say that he wont improve further. As for George Washington, his QEII run we have rated at 132+ (cf with Invasor's 128+ for the BCC). I'm in no way simply looking to "compare a grass race run in Europe to a dirt race run in America" as someone else suggested, but rather assigning figures (in lbs) to what each horse has actually achieved, and establishing a figure to which they can realistically run to. Therefore, for whatever the reason, I'm asserting that both Bernardini and GW were below their best in the BCC. For the latter the reasons are fairly obvious, but for Bernardini they are not at all so, are bound to raise debate, and represent a dilemma over which we all have a view.
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![]() Well, considering Araafa's brilliant showing in the BC Mile I would think the QE II's rating should be dramatically reconsidered.
It's funny, as much as we tend to overrate the Euros, the people from Europe are even more extreme. |
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Killybegs has subsequently shown the QEII form to be solid.
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man I hope that goes for every Euro in that race. they did a great "no show". I really think Europe had some nice milers this year, but I knew I was in trouble when Ferguson (or someone from the godolphin camp) was already explaining to the interviewer why Librettist was going to lose 10 minutes BEFORE the race. not a good sign. Repent |
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