Federal Hate Crimes

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except I stated "One case will be prosecuted federally and one will be handled locally."

My point is one will face federal prosecution, the minimum of 10 years that comes with it and most importantly the requirement of doing 85% of the sentence. Conrad Alvin Barrett was ordered held without bond on 12/27.

We'll see about Baldwin when he is arraigned in STATE Court presumably tomorrow. One thing we do know is that if Baldwin was being prosecuted federally he'd be facing 70 years minimum (not counting the child endangerment charge) and would have no chance at bail. Even at the minimum he'd do 59.5 years and be over 94 when he gets out, effectively removing him from society permanently.

I apologize; I misunderstood your original post.

It could also be because the feds figured they can't make the case for it. Baldwin's assault charges have been downgraded from hate crimes (since the victims were all Jewish, that was why the initial charges were brought) so I'm guessing the NYPD figures it can't make the case for hate crimes.

The guy in Texas, from what he's quoted as saying in the articles, is much clearer about his motives. Sounds like defense will counter that he's mentally ill (his family says he's bi-polar).

The legal system doesn't want to bring charges it doesn't think it can prove. As we saw in the State of Florida's reluctance to bring charges against George Zimmerman. And they did, under public pressure, bring charges and they couldn't prove them. And fortunately for us all, Zimmerman has shown what a fine, upstanding citizen he is since then, what with his choking a pregnant woman and selling plagiarized "art."

But it comes down to what they think they can prove. NYS doesn't think it can prove the victims being Jewish was what motivated Baldwin, so they dropped that charge. He's still charged with assault, of course.