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Old 11-25-2006, 05:47 PM
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DTS: so what do you think? I believe that Cheney is in S.A. to talk about the possible influence of Saudis to Iraq situation. Pull out your "magic pencil" and connect the dots for me. They could've moved the bin Laden and Saudis' so that they wouldn't be slaughtered in the streets by civilians after 9/11
Timm,
Like you, I have no "inside information" about the discussion between Cheney and King Abdullah that transpired today.
I can speculate that the main reason was either to prepare them for US withdrawl and admission of failure, attempting to gain support to talk to Sadr so as to "put out the fire", or perhaps forge some kind of cobbled alliance between Syria, Jordan and maybe Egypt. I won't know until the "official" report is reported in the press. Even then, I'll have my doubts.
Do you know which international company supplies oil pumping technology and pipeline supplies? Clue...read about the company that Cheney was the former CEO and still holds considerable stock. Nothing would amaze me.

As far as moving the bin Laden family and the Sauds out of the country, seems to me they could have stayed either in their hotel rooms for a few days or gone to Crawford for a month or two. Most folks didn't even know they were here in the states until after they were rushed out.
Why do you think they were?
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:07 PM
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I pretty much gave a reason..only conjecture on my part. However...about Halliburton..they were(and still are) the company with the most sophistictated and high tech equipment available in the world and probably the best at R&D. So I think the connection to Cheney, and any ulterior motives is far fetched at best. Of course, we could always take out that rat bast**d Al Saydr and things would clear up considerably!!
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:32 PM
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I pretty much gave a reason..only conjecture on my part. However...about Halliburton..they were(and still are) the company with the most sophistictated and high tech equipment available in the world and probably the best at R&D. So I think the connection to Cheney, and any ulterior motives is far fetched at best. Of course, we could always take out that rat bast**d Al Saydr and things would clear up considerably!!
Timm,
Halliburton is correct. Remember the "no-bid" contracts? Cost over runs?
Far fetched???? I don't think so.
Of course you won't find it in Halliburton's prospectus or current financial reports. At least not in the Wall Street Journal or Halliburton's website.
It continues to amaze me that some are so eager to believe that the threat comes from "outside" of the USA. The reality might just be too horrible, too abhorent, for believing citizens to possibly confront, let alone accept.

I noticed something in my garden a few weeks ago. A pumpkin rots from the inside. Yes, you heard me. INSIDE!

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Old 11-25-2006, 06:41 PM
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DTS: Why should they have a bid when no other company had the skill,equipment and experience to deal with the situation? And yes, the alternative is too horrible to accept. Hey, I got a game to watch! TTYL
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Old 11-25-2006, 07:27 PM
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DTS: Why should they have a bid when no other company had the skill,equipment and experience to deal with the situation? And yes, the alternative is too horrible to accept. Hey, I got a game to watch! TTYL
Timm,
That's really a stretch...the first and only time a "no bid contact" was granted. Seems to go against the approved bidding process.
Other companies have expertise. They were denied the opportunity to bid, but heck, that's "capialism" afterall.
Right?
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:54 AM
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DTS: Why should they have a bid when no other company had the skill,equipment and experience to deal with the situation? And yes, the alternative is too horrible to accept. Hey, I got a game to watch! TTYL
As you probably know, Clinton gave Halliburton a no-bid contract when he was President. Nobody had a problem with it.
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Old 11-26-2006, 09:59 AM
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Timm,
Halliburton is correct. Remember the "no-bid" contracts? Cost over runs?
Far fetched???? I don't think so.
Of course you won't find it in Halliburton's prospectus or current financial reports. At least not in the Wall Street Journal or Halliburton's website.
It continues to amaze me that some are so eager to believe that the threat comes from "outside" of the USA. The reality might just be too horrible, too abhorent, for believing citizens to possibly confront, let alone accept.

I noticed something in my garden a few weeks ago. A pumpkin rots from the inside. Yes, you heard me. INSIDE!
such drama!! careful dts, big brother may be watching. funny that conspiracty theorists think they're the ones who see the truth. better go look under your bed now, and in your closets.


don't forget, the first time the towers were attacked, clinton was prez. maybe the dems are just as evil. whatever shall we do?! our govt has been taken over!!

gimme a break.
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:00 AM
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such drama!! careful dts, big brother may be watching. funny that conspiracty theorists think they're the ones who see the truth. better go look under your bed now, and in your closets.


don't forget, the first time the towers were attacked, clinton was prez. maybe the dems are just as evil. whatever shall we do?! our govt has been taken over!!

gimme a break.
Danzig,
You might find an interesting read in a book titled "Triple Cross".
It has to do with the first WT bombing and how the FBI blew it. Big!
Check it out. It's well researched and accurate.

btw...I checked under my bed. All that I found were some dust bunnies and the wmd's that so many have been looking for all this time.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:41 PM
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Danzig,
In case you didn't take time to read the "time line" link I posted for timm, 1988, here it is....

1988: Bin Ladens Bail Out George W. Bush?
Bush during his Harken days. [Source: Lions Gate Films] Prior to this year, President George W. Bush is a failed oilman. Three times, friends and investors have bailed him out to keep his business from going bankrupt. However, in 1988, the same year his father becomes president, some Saudis buy a portion of his small company, Harken, which has never performed work outside of Texas. Later in the year, Harken wins a contract in the Persian Gulf and starts doing well financially. These transactions seem so suspicious that the Wall Street Journal in 1991 states it “raises the question of ... an effort to cozy up to a presidential son.” Two major investors in Bush’s company during this time are Salem bin Laden and Khalid bin Mahfouz. [Salon, 11/19/2001; Intelligence Newsletter, 3/2/2000] Salem bin Laden is Osama’s oldest brother; Khalid bin Mahfouz is a Saudi banker with a 20 percent stake in BCCI. The bank will be shut down a few years later and bin Mahfouz will have to pay a $225 million fine (while admitting no wrongdoing) (see October 2001)). [Forbes, 3/18/2002]
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:00 PM
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Danzig,
Here's a link to Lance's book...Triple Cross.
If you haven't heard about Ali Mohamed, you might want to find out.

http://www.mediachannel.org/articles...onspiracy.html
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:12 PM
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Timm,
As you might know, "Deep Throat" (later revealed) advised Woodward and Bernstein to "follow the money" during the Watergate days.
I've been looking. Especially interesting is the as yet unidentified, and unclaimed money that was made on the "put" orders on American and United Airlines. This transaction could easily be found if the SEC would only reveal the trader. Is protection to the identity being provided by higher powers?
Your guess is as good as mine.
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot....-you-need.html
And, yes, it will be quite a book.
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:29 PM
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So..as I understand you..it must be someone in Congress or the Administration that had the 'put' orders given?? DTS,with all due respect, Tom Clancy is looking for help! That's preposterous...and me being so trusting, I can't see it being pulled off! But,hey,I think SC is gonna beat ND,too!
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:47 PM
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So..as I understand you..it must be someone in Congress or the Administration that had the 'put' orders given?? DTS,with all due respect, Tom Clancy is looking for help! That's preposterous...and me being so trusting, I can't see it being pulled off! But,hey,I think SC is gonna beat ND,too!
Timm,
How do you expect me to know who is protecting the one that made the "put" order?
Not much seems preposterous to me. A huge building falling down that wasn't targeted or hit, one that showed no smoke, and has a video of "blast sequence" evidencing "controlled demolition".
Unlike you, I trust no one, least of all those that have squandered so many lives during their "adventure" to create "democracy", or find wmd's, or line their pockets with oil revenues and no-bid contracts.
Keep trusting, my friend.
Many did as they climbed aboard trains in Warsaw when they were told they were being "relocated". They certainly were, but not as they expected.
Hey, maybe SC beating ND is, in fact, very important.
Keep believing. Eat everything that is fed to you.
Don't ask questions. You don't deserve answers after all.
And don't ever question the answers that are given.
Load up the boxcars. We have more sheep that need to be brought to a destiny they never considered.
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