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[Danzig]

i don't think they overplayed it at all. and they haven't just been persecuted, people have been attacked and killed because of others not liking their sexuality.
i'm not sure why someone can make such comments, and everyone is supposed to 'understand where he's coming from'.
so, he can say what he wants and point to a book as to why? but if someone takes offense, they need to be more tolerant?
i know it's the general rule, oh just ignore it. but that's what people who behave badly are counting on. that altho they are uncivilized, they can depend on civilized people to stay...civil.
his comments don't reach the level of, say, tony perkins. but they certainly deserved to be called what they were. and it's not the first time he's made those type comments.
he certainly didn't make them to get dialogue going, but to stop it.
and it's too bad that the homosexual comments got so much more attention than him trying to gloss over the days of jim crow.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think they overplayed it at all. and they haven't just been persecuted, people have been attacked and killed because of others not liking their sexuality.
i'm not sure why someone can make such comments, and everyone is supposed to 'understand where he's coming from'.
so, he can say what he wants and point to a book as to why? but if someone takes offense, they need to be more tolerant?
i know it's the general rule, oh just ignore it. but that's what people who behave badly are counting on. that altho they are uncivilized, they can depend on civilized people to stay...civil.
his comments don't reach the level of, say, tony perkins. but they certainly deserved to be called what they were. and it's not the first time he's made those type comments.
he certainly didn't make them to get dialogue going, but to stop it.
and it's too bad that the homosexual comments got so much more attention than him trying to gloss over the days of jim crow.

I will ask you the question again. I should say I will ask you 3 questions again. If I say that a man and a woman having premarital sex is a sin, does that mean I hate them? If I say that watching pornography is a sin, does that mean I hate people that watch pornography? If I say that two men having sex is a sin, does that mean I hate them?

If your answer is "yes", I think 99% of people would disagree with you. If your answer is "no", then you should understand why GLAAD has gotten such a backlash. They overplayed their hand by saying that these comments amount to "hate".

By the way, the word "persecution" would include people being attacked and killed.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I will ask you the question again. I should say I will ask you 3 questions again. If I say that a man and a woman having premarital sex is a sin, does that mean I hate them? If I say that watching pornography is a sin, does that mean I hate people that watch pornography? If I say that two men having sex is a sin, does that mean I hate them?

If your answer is "yes", I think 99% of people would disagree with you. If your answer is "no", then you should understand why GLAAD has gotten such a backlash. They overplayed their hand by saying that these comments amount to "hate".

By the way, the word "persecution" would include people being attacked and killed.

except you aren't doing an actual comparison to what phil said. he didn't say homosexuality is a sin, he said far, far more than that. how it morphs into bestiality, etc.
i didn't know glaad had gotten backlash over it, tho. not that it matters, i doubt all homosexuals think glaad speaks for all them, any more than i think the national org for women speaks for me.

as i said above, i mentioned hate as part of a broader discussion, not about what phil said. if someone else categorized it as hate speech, you'll have to get clarity from them.
i think his comments were inappropriate, but that's just my opinion. i didn't watch duck dynasty before, i won't now, some la. yahoos opinions matter as much to me as my opinions matter to him-not a bit.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

except you aren't doing an actual comparison to what phil said. he didn't say homosexuality is a sin, he said far, far more than that. how it morphs into bestiality, etc.
i didn't know glaad had gotten backlash over it, tho. not that it matters, i doubt all homosexuals think glaad speaks for all them, any more than i think the national org for women speaks for me.

as i said above, i mentioned hate as part of a broader discussion, not about what phil said. if someone else categorized it as hate speech, you'll have to get clarity from them.
i think his comments were inappropriate, but that's just my opinion. i didn't watch duck dynasty before, i won't now, some la. yahoos opinions matter as much to me as my opinions matter to him-not a bit.

Here is an article about all the backlash GLAAD has received:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/duck-dynast...010050637.html

I agree with you that GLAAD does not speak for most gay people. As I said before, it reminds me of Jesse Jackson acting like he speaks on behalf of most black people.

By the way, here is the exact quote: ""It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical," he's quoted as saying.

Asked what, in his mind, is sinful, Robertson replied: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

He was not saying that homosexuality turns into beastiality. I think some people mistakenly thought he said that. His use of the word "morph" was a little confusing. I don't think he used the correct word to convey what he was trying to say.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is an article about all the backlash GLAAD has received:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/duck-dynast...010050637.html

I agree with you that GLAAD does not speak for most gay people. As I said before, it reminds me of Jesse Jackson acting like he speaks on behalf of most black people.

By the way, here is the exact quote: ""It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical," he's quoted as saying.

Asked what, in his mind, is sinful, Robertson replied: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

He was not saying that homosexuality turns into beastiality. I think some people mistakenly thought he said that. His use of the word "morph" was a little confusing. I don't think he used the correct word to convey what he was trying to say.

hey, if you want to give him benefit of the doubt, go for it.

[Danzig]

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/al...uest-new-trial

[casp0555]

real tough guy......hope this scumbag gets what he deserves.

http://www.chron.com/news/texas/arti....php?cmpid=htx