2013-2014 NBA Season

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

D. Wade confuses me. There was talk last year about him going overseas and having the same procedure Kobe had. It just seems like instead of focusing on ball he is modeling and doing everything else. All that said he is still probably the 3rd best 2 guard of all time and a true warrior. But imagine if he was healthy the last few years, and the next few years?

3rd best two guard? I'd have to think about that, but it seems like a stretch to me.

I can imagine a lot of things, but he wasn't healthy, isn't healthy, and most likely won't be healthy going forward.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

3rd best two guard? I'd have to think about that, but it seems like a stretch to me.

I can imagine a lot of things, but he wasn't healthy, isn't healthy, and most likely won't be healthy going forward.

COme on...

MJ, Kobe and him.
I mean if he rides Lebron to 1 or 2 more you can argue he is better then Kobe. In his prime I believe he was at least as good as Kobe.
D. Wades career stats are awfully impressive. He is 25-6-5. And he pretty much won an NBA championship by himself.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

COme on...

MJ, Kobe and him.
I mean if he rides Lebron to 1 or 2 more you can argue he is better then Kobe. In his prime I believe he was at least as good as Kobe.
D. Wades career stats are awfully impressive. He is 25-6-5. And he pretty much won an NBA championship by himself.

How does riding somebody else help? That is just silly.

I did a quick search and the first list I saw had him 6th, behind guys like Gervin, Drexler, and Jerry West.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

How does riding somebody else help? That is just silly.

I did a quick search and the first list I saw had him 6th, behind guys like Gervin, Drexler, and Jerry West.

Fair, but Kobe rode Shaq to at least 2. Plus Wade has been clearly the second best player on Miami in the 2 Finals. Its not like Ray Allen who is still very productive, but clearly not a top tier guy still, and he is riding D. Wade and Lebron to more rings. Making the resume look stronger.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Fair, but Kobe rode Shaq to at least 2. Plus Wade has been clearly the second best player on Miami in the 2 Finals. Its not like Ray Allen who is still very productive, but clearly not a top tier guy still, and he is riding D. Wade and Lebron to more rings. Making the resume look stronger.

Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.

And Robert Horry

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.

Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.

Jerry West

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.

I don't see how Wade is better than Kobe, and I hate Kobe.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.

Wade same as Kobe? wow this may be your greatest reach and thats saying something.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.

OK so also Lebron is the best player of all time. Period then, right??
He certainly passes the eye test, the stat test and the award test.
I mean I think he is anyway, but people still say Kobe and Jordan. I think comparing Kobe is a joke. Jordan closer, but Lebron better

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

OK so also Lebron is the best player of all time. Period then, right??
He certainly passes the eye test, the stat test and the award test.
I mean I think he is anyway, but people still say Kobe and Jordan. I think comparing Kobe is a joke. Jordan closer, but Lebron better

There was a guy who once averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds a game one season.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

COme on...

MJ, Kobe and him.
I mean if he rides Lebron to 1 or 2 more you can argue he is better then Kobe. In his prime I believe he was at least as good as Kobe.
D. Wades career stats are awfully impressive. He is 25-6-5. And he pretty much won an NBA championship by himself.

Jerry West 27-6-6 without a three point line. All defensive team numerous times.

Miami winning more titles doesnt make Wade "better", just fortunate that James decided to take his talents to South beach.