Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Sports Bar & Grill
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-18-2013, 05:46 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
D. Wade confuses me. There was talk last year about him going overseas and having the same procedure Kobe had. It just seems like instead of focusing on ball he is modeling and doing everything else. All that said he is still probably the 3rd best 2 guard of all time and a true warrior. But imagine if he was healthy the last few years, and the next few years?
3rd best two guard? I'd have to think about that, but it seems like a stretch to me.

I can imagine a lot of things, but he wasn't healthy, isn't healthy, and most likely won't be healthy going forward.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-18-2013, 05:56 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
3rd best two guard? I'd have to think about that, but it seems like a stretch to me.

I can imagine a lot of things, but he wasn't healthy, isn't healthy, and most likely won't be healthy going forward.
COme on...

MJ, Kobe and him.
I mean if he rides Lebron to 1 or 2 more you can argue he is better then Kobe. In his prime I believe he was at least as good as Kobe.
D. Wades career stats are awfully impressive. He is 25-6-5. And he pretty much won an NBA championship by himself.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-18-2013, 06:04 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
COme on...

MJ, Kobe and him.
I mean if he rides Lebron to 1 or 2 more you can argue he is better then Kobe. In his prime I believe he was at least as good as Kobe.
D. Wades career stats are awfully impressive. He is 25-6-5. And he pretty much won an NBA championship by himself.
How does riding somebody else help? That is just silly.

I did a quick search and the first list I saw had him 6th, behind guys like Gervin, Drexler, and Jerry West.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-18-2013, 06:15 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
How does riding somebody else help? That is just silly.

I did a quick search and the first list I saw had him 6th, behind guys like Gervin, Drexler, and Jerry West.
Fair, but Kobe rode Shaq to at least 2. Plus Wade has been clearly the second best player on Miami in the 2 Finals. Its not like Ray Allen who is still very productive, but clearly not a top tier guy still, and he is riding D. Wade and Lebron to more rings. Making the resume look stronger.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:44 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Fair, but Kobe rode Shaq to at least 2. Plus Wade has been clearly the second best player on Miami in the 2 Finals. Its not like Ray Allen who is still very productive, but clearly not a top tier guy still, and he is riding D. Wade and Lebron to more rings. Making the resume look stronger.
Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:46 PM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.
And Robert Horry
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:47 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.
Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:49 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.
Jerry West
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-19-2013, 09:24 AM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.
I don't see how Wade is better than Kobe, and I hate Kobe.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-19-2013, 09:35 AM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,674
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Ok, but were not talking about Wade being 17-3-3. He is 25-6-5 for his career.
In their prime who is better Wade or Kobe? IMO they are the same guy, and I would prefer Wade. Wade was better IMO.
Wade same as Kobe? wow this may be your greatest reach and thats saying something.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:49 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
Titles don't matter for individual accomplishment. If that was the case the all time great list would be all Celtics from the 60's.
OK so also Lebron is the best player of all time. Period then, right??
He certainly passes the eye test, the stat test and the award test.
I mean I think he is anyway, but people still say Kobe and Jordan. I think comparing Kobe is a joke. Jordan closer, but Lebron better
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:55 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
OK so also Lebron is the best player of all time. Period then, right??
He certainly passes the eye test, the stat test and the award test.
I mean I think he is anyway, but people still say Kobe and Jordan. I think comparing Kobe is a joke. Jordan closer, but Lebron better
There was a guy who once averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds a game one season.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-18-2013, 09:43 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
COme on...

MJ, Kobe and him.
I mean if he rides Lebron to 1 or 2 more you can argue he is better then Kobe. In his prime I believe he was at least as good as Kobe.
D. Wades career stats are awfully impressive. He is 25-6-5. And he pretty much won an NBA championship by himself.
Jerry West 27-6-6 without a three point line. All defensive team numerous times.

Miami winning more titles doesnt make Wade "better", just fortunate that James decided to take his talents to South beach.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.