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Old 11-04-2013, 12:07 PM
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I'm not suggesting this be the way to answer the question but...according to Trakus, what horse covered the most ground relative to margin of defeat?

Will Take Charge was very wide and still game down the stretch.
You of course are assuming 2 things.
1. Wider paths weren't possibly better path during either of the 2 days
2. Against the clock, all races were equal, i.e. a horse that loses a ton of ground in a dreadfully slow race didn't necessarily put in the most impressive performance in defeat.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:28 PM
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You of course are assuming 2 things.
1. Wider paths weren't possibly better path during either of the 2 days
2. Against the clock, all races were equal, i.e. a horse that loses a ton of ground in a dreadfully slow race didn't necessarily put in the most impressive performance in defeat.
I'm not assuming anything. In watching the race the horse was wide in the turn (5-6 path) and lost by mere inches.

I wasn't commenting on the speed of the race or figures....Just watching the race one can't help but wonder if he would have been able to nail MMM if he had only be three wide.

I think I get your point but you're attacking an argument I never really made.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:32 PM
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I'm not assuming anything. In watching the race the horse was wide in the turn (5-6 path) and lost by mere inches.

I wasn't commenting on the speed of the race or figures....Just watching the race one can't help but wonder if he would have been able to nail MMM if he had only be three wide.

I think I get your point but you're attacking an argument I never really made.
Trakus is very useful. I was simply pointing out the ways it can be misinterpreted. You made no argument, I wasn't being critical.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:34 PM
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Trakus is very useful. I was simply pointing out the ways it can be misinterpreted. You made no argument, I wasn't being critical.
Thanks...Sorry I misread your comments.

Funny thing about this board and the game we enjoy is that the entire thing is based on opinions and then we're all a little defensive with the slightest challenge....

Carry on...
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:37 PM
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Thanks...Sorry I misread your comments.

Funny thing about this board and the game we enjoy is that the entire thing is based on opinions and then we're all a little defensive with the slightest challenge....

Carry on...
Lovers of horse racing tend to be opinionated...it is what it is. What we lack in social graces we make up for in honesty.
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Old 11-04-2013, 01:22 PM
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You of course are assuming 2 things.
1. Wider paths weren't possibly better path during either of the 2 days
2. Against the clock, all races were equal, i.e. a horse that loses a ton of ground in a dreadfully slow race didn't necessarily put in the most impressive performance in defeat.
wider path might be 'better' but it's also longer.
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Old 11-04-2013, 01:26 PM
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Strong Mandate was pretty damn good in defeat.
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:01 PM
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Judy the Beauty ran well considering Luis Saez was never on her before. I wonder if JV would have made the difference. I hope she comes back next year.
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:56 PM
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Strong Mandate was pretty damn good in defeat.
Any guess on what happened in the Champagne?
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:04 PM
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Any guess on what happened in the Champagne?
Horrible ride.
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