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Old 11-01-2013, 08:05 PM
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She still didnt run a step, track did not get her beat 17 lengths.
Who did run a step from that far back today?
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:07 PM
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Who did run a step from that far back today?
She was 4 lengths back of Royal Delta in their last race, she was 10 back today, she did no running at any point.

I agree once she did not run early she was not going to make up much ground but you think she could have passed a Royal Delta who stopped at the QP.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:09 PM
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She was 4 lengths back of Royal Delta in their last race, she was 10 back today, she did no running at any point.

I agree once she did not run early she was not going to make up much ground but you think she could have passed a Royal Delta who stopped at the QP.
The fact that she could not get past Royal Delta who I agree stopped IMO confirms even more how much the bias affected the results today.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:11 PM
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The fact that she could not get past Royal Delta who I agree stopped IMO confirms even more how much the bias affected the results today.
You think she ran today and it was the track that held her back?
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:13 PM
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You think she ran today and it was the track that held her back?
Is that what I said?
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:23 PM
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Is that what I said?
Pretty much.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:36 PM
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Pretty much.
No, I did not. I said that she had no chance to win the race on such a ridiculously biased race track before they even got into the gate, I never evaluated her run today.

You tried to mix up my words in your never ending trolling quest to take shots at me whenever you see an opening. Keep trying troll.

By the way, you still haven't answered the question of who did run a step from that far back today?
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:15 PM
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You think she ran today and it was the track that held her back?
I think shes still champ 3yr old filly, no she did not run at all. But Beholder did not have a real campaign, spotty. She has 1 huge win today, a huge second and that prep win that was IMO OK. Only Close Hatches could have took that honor away, and she ran well, but not good enough.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:17 PM
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POS is the champ. Would be awful to see her not get it IMO
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:19 PM
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I could actually see them running POS back at Aqueduct THanksgiving weekend. They kept her in training for this, the track was a joke and she did not run 1 step. If shes OK, they could run her.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:23 PM
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I think shes still champ 3yr old filly, no she did not run at all. But Beholder did not have a real campaign, spotty. She has 1 huge win today, a huge second and that prep win that was IMO OK. Only Close Hatches could have took that honor away, and she ran well, but not good enough.
While I agree about the way it should be voted I think you are selling Beholder short who beat elders twice in grade 1 races, won the SA Oaks and was super game in the Ky Oaks. She did have a injury issue though so she should have to pay a price for that.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:37 PM
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Beholder beat elders 2x had one less start then Sylmar all year.POS first two races of the year she beat Kelli Me Frosty in one start and Ruby Lips in the other.
One can argue Beholder lost in the Oaks was better the Sylmars win.
Princess ran away from a 2x champion. Beholder beat Authenticity.
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