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Old 11-01-2013, 06:10 AM
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They just aren't that good. Irving has yet to prove he can play a full season. Didn't his 1st year in college, didn't his first 2 years in the NBA. Quick name his backup?
Bynum is incredibly fat right now and cant play more than 10 mins a game. Varejao is also coming off an injury and is always hurt. Waiters is not ready for primetime. Bennett doesn't look like he is in shape either. Thompson, Gee, etc are decent role players but hardly bigtime players. Jack was a nice signing and will help. They were one of the worst defensive teams in the game last year and have hardly addressed that besides hiring Brown to coach and getting Varejao back. Listen they are certainly better than they have been but only elite teams can win 55 games and they aren't that. Maybe 44 if everything breaks right and that would be a huge 20 game improvement.

Memphis won 56 games last year and is the easily one of the top 3 teams in the NBA on the defensive end. They added Mike Miller, Koufas and Jamal Franklin who are all upgrades and didn't lose anyone of note. Cleveland is not even close to Memphis.

Atlanta isn't close to Memphis either but are a solid team.
Ill also add, they have built this up very quick to make it very attractive for Lebron. I thought for sure he was a lock to stay in Miami, but he knows Bosh is soft and Wade has a lot of knee issues. W/ all the young pieces they have and an actual real inside presence, I think they are now the favorite to land him next year.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:00 PM
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Ill also add, they have built this up very quick to make it very attractive for Lebron. I thought for sure he was a lock to stay in Miami, but he knows Bosh is soft and Wade has a lot of knee issues. W/ all the young pieces they have and an actual real inside presence, I think they are now the favorite to land him next year.
Yeah I'm sure LeBron is jonesing to play with Bynum and Waiters and Gee and get coached by Mike Brown again.

Bosh and Wade are hall of fame players.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:39 PM
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Yeah I'm sure LeBron is jonesing to play with Bynum and Waiters and Gee and get coached by Mike Brown again.

Bosh and Wade are hall of fame players.
Of course they are HOF Chuck, but Bosh is a HOF because of Wade and Lebron. Period. Wade, I have as a top 4 2 guard ever on his own, but age catches up and Lebron is going for 10.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:39 PM
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Of course they are HOF Chuck, but Bosh is a HOF because of Wade and Lebron. Period. Wade, I have as a top 4 2 guard ever on his own, but age catches up and Lebron is going for 10.
You guys are on crack thinking Bosh is an HOF.

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Old 11-01-2013, 08:53 PM
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You guys are on crack thinking Bosh is an HOF.

Philly 2-0 (lol)
Hes pretty much a lock because of Lebron.
He is a career 20 and 9 guy, he is a 50% shooter.
Playoffs 16 and 8.
Been to 3 finals, likely 4 with 3 wins after this year. His stats compare favorably. And I will argue his number will go up after this year when hes not with Lebron anymore. He also has 3 23-11 years
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:44 PM
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You guys are on crack thinking Bosh is an HOF.

Philly 2-0 (lol)
Familiarize yourself with the numbers of recently elected hall of fame members like Jamaal Wilkes and James Worthy and report back.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:47 PM
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Chuckles your upsetting me tonight.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:02 PM
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Familiarize yourself with the numbers of recently elected hall of fame members like Jamaal Wilkes and James Worthy and report back.
I did a quick version of this already
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:44 AM
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Familiarize yourself with the numbers of recently elected hall of fame members like Jamaal Wilkes and James Worthy and report back.
If Bosh makes in in the NBA HOF, I will never watch another Non NBA game in my life.

I understand that the HOF is different for sports, but he sucks, and would just be another 20-10 guy on another team, with a time where all sorts of guys can score, just none of them can play D.
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Great late rally by Miami, but Brooklyn basically went wire-to-wire. Big win.
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If Bosh makes in in the NBA HOF, I will never watch another Non NBA game in my life.

I understand that the HOF is different for sports, but he sucks, and would just be another 20-10 guy on another team, with a time where all sorts of guys can score, just none of them can play D.
Dude 20-10 guys over a decade are hall of famers. He doesn't suck. The idea the NBA defenses arent better than they were in the 80's for instance is completely misguided. I would think that a guy whose team's success is almost completely predicated on defense would see this.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:32 PM
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Of course they are HOF Chuck, but Bosh is a HOF because of Wade and Lebron. Period. Wade, I have as a top 4 2 guard ever on his own, but age catches up and Lebron is going for 10.
Bosh was an all star in Toronto almost every year.He went for 24-10 in his last season in Toronto. He sacrificed numbers to play in Miami.
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Bosh was an all star in Toronto almost every year.He went for 24-10 in his last season in Toronto. He sacrificed numbers to play in Miami.
Im not arguing this point, it does not change the fact that hes soft. Cupcake soft and moist.... Actually the only way Miami losses is if Indiana bodies them inside.
I was actually arguing for the point
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:48 PM
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Im not arguing this point, it does not change the fact that hes soft. Cupcake soft and moist.... Actually the only way Miami losses is if Indiana bodies them inside.
I was actually arguing for the point
He looks like a dinosaur as well

55 win teams dont lose to Charlotte
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:03 PM
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He looks like a dinosaur as well

55 win teams dont lose to Charlotte
WHo is he?? Are we talking about Bosh now or Clevland?
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