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Old 11-23-2006, 03:57 PM
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is Cigar mile on tvg or espn?? and just for fun silver train over dc !!

I'd agree if the race were at Belmont(maybe). But since it's at Aqueduct, I think the only horse who could beat DC is BOS... but I think DC will win.
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:47 PM
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This is an amazing amount of respect being shown to Discreet Cat. He's got 124 pounds and because he's a 3yo, he's getting two pounds on the scale so in essence, they assigned him 126. I can't believe they have him giving six pounds to Silver Train and nine to Badge of Silver.
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:50 PM
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This is an amazing amount of respect being shown to Discreet Cat. He's got 124 pounds and because he's a 3yo, he's getting two pounds on the scale so in essence, they assigned him 126. I can't believe they have him giving six pounds to Silver Train and nine to Badge of Silver.
I can't believe Silver train is giving weight to any one...what the hell has he done this year?
let's face it if the race isn't at belmont he doesn't win...and his last race was not pretty.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:00 PM
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I can't believe Silver train is giving weight to any one...what the hell has he done this year?
He won the Met Mile and Tom Fool.. all in all not a terrible year.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:51 PM
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I don't believe weight matters, but the weights for this race are beyond ludicrous and smell of cowtowing to Silver Train's connections to get him to run. For the winner of last year's BC Sprint, this year's Met Mile and Tom Fool to be getting 4 pounds ( and six on scale ) from the winner of an allowance race and the Jerome is absurd beyond belief. I wasn't aware that weights were assigned based on speed figures and reputations.

Believe me, the weights won't matter, but the assignments in this race are merely further proof that handicap races should be done away with.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:04 PM
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I don't believe weight matters, but the weights for this race are beyond ludicrous and smell of cowtowing to Silver Train's connections to get him to run. For the winner of last year's BC Sprint, this year's Met Mile and Tom Fool to be getting 4 pounds ( and six on scale ) from the winner of an allowance race and the Jerome is absurd beyond belief. I wasn't aware that weights were assigned based on speed figures and reputations.

Believe me, the weights won't matter, but the assignments in this race are merely further proof that handicap races should be done away with.
I agree with just about all of this. There is no way in the world that Discreet Cat should be assigned more weight than Silver Train. I also don't think the weights will matter in this race either. When u say that u don't believe weight matters, were u speaking specifically of this race or do u mean in general?

Just realized I have it wrong. The scale actually says that 3yo's get three pounds from older at a mile in November. So Discreet Cat was assigned 127.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:21 PM
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I pretty much don't think weight matters, within reason, in general. But, to each their own, however why bother having handicaps and assigning weights in the manner they did for this race?

I had read it was two pounds at this time of year for a mile but either way the assignments make no sense.
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