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Old 10-22-2013, 11:00 PM
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Spectacular Bid?
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:29 PM
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Spectacular Bid?
He never raced on turf.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:00 AM
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All time great, no, but it makes me think of Barbaro for some reason. Damn.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:52 AM
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Big Brown was awesome on both.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:01 AM
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Big Brown was awesome on both.
Was this a typo? Did you mean Big Red?
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:26 AM
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Kelso was OK on grass in the regular occasions he tried it in the DC International..
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:41 AM
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For a foreign horse, you're talking about a Dubai Millennium.

Absolutely dominant turf horse at 10f in Europe -- obliterated everything in his Dubai dirt races.

Also had a very aggressive running style better suited to American racing.

Very American pedigree as well, sire was Seeking the Gold, who you think dirt, not turf. The 2nd dam Fall Aspen won the Matron, Astarita, and Prioress at Belmont, and she dropped a Breeders Cup Juvenile and Preakness winner in Timber Country among many other good ones.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:34 AM
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Kelso was OK on grass in the regular occasions he tried it in the DC International..
Kelso eventually won one of those...but he has a much stronger claim to greatest dirt horse of all-time than he does to greatest multi-surface horse.
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Big Brown was awesome on both.
The best horse he ever beat was that Frankel horse in the Monmouth turf race, I dont believe he was awesome on either surface. I feel like he was fortunate to never face much on either surface.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:16 PM
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Another C. Whittingham star who ran well on dirt or grass was Greinton.....
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:32 PM
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Bump.

Gentlemen. I think he's probably the best turf and dirt horse of the last twenty years or so. Candy Ride too might have been there.

When Gentlemen decided to run, he was truly freakish.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:22 AM
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He never raced on turf.
I see now. Both surfaces.

How about Lava Man?

His win in the Whittingham on turf might have been is greatest race.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:39 PM
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Not in the conversation for "the best in the last 50 years," but in more recent memory Einstein was no slouch.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:29 PM
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I swear that you post stuff like "Spectacular Bid" just to get people to respond to you. It's pathetic.

How could you read the thread starter and NOT know what the guy was looking for?

It's embarrassing, really.
It was an honest mistake. Didn't read the thread starter all the way though. I'm imposing a two year bowl ban and taking away 9 scholarships from myself.

I swear you wait in your jammies and check every day for the once in six months I post something so you can say something mean.

That seems pathetic and embarrassing to me.

Check back in April for your next " tee hee " opportunity.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:38 PM
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I knew what you meant Vic. If Bid was on the turf, I'm sure he would've been the best ever on that surface as well...but let's talk horses. Which horse do you think is Rosario's best chance for Breeders Cup glory?
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:16 PM
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I knew what you meant Vic. If Bid was on the turf, I'm sure he would've been the best ever on that surface as well...but let's talk horses. Which horse do you think is Rosario's best chance for Breeders Cup glory?
Haven't looked close enough to have a decent opinion on that.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:59 PM
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