Take Control breaks down

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You can draw a line through Take Control, who apparently broke down this morning. Quite the job his trainer did.

Is this fair? I dont have pps in front of me, but I believe 5 or 6 starts and the horse is 6. Clear physical issues.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Is this fair? I dont have pps in front of me, but I believe 5 or 6 starts and the horse is 6. Clear physical issues.

It's not unfair

[randallscott35]

That heart attack story last year coincided with Baffert going ice cold in the Breeders Cup including the flop of Game on Dude...Of course this wasn't a heart attack so I'm sure he'll be fine on the big days.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It's not unfair

Im not even trying to defend Baffert, its just the way that person posted it, facts are facts. The horse had serious physical issues all along, no?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not even trying to defend Baffert, its just the way that person posted it, facts are facts. The horse had serious physical issues all along, no?

Obviously but Baffert is ultimately responsible and while he might not have pulled the trigger he is left holding the smoking gun. Truthfully we don't even know what issues that he had in prior years and if they were related to the fatal injury. However as trainers we must assume the moral/ethical responsibility when we are putting horses out on the track in the morning and afternoon. It is not a coincidence that certain trainers have a far greater % of breakdowns than most. One of the big name trainers in NY has had far too many breakdowns than should be kosher but because they are rarely big names or have pretty horse people followings they basically get shrugged off. Like most everything else in life, without consequences you wont see a change in behavior or in this case fatal injuries.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Obviously but Baffert is ultimately responsible and while he might not have pulled the trigger he is left holding the smoking gun. Truthfully we don't even know what issues that he had in prior years and if they were related to the fatal injury. However as trainers we must assume the moral/ethical responsibility when we are putting horses out on the track in the morning and afternoon. It is not a coincidence that certain trainers have a far greater % of breakdowns than most. One of the big name trainers in NY has had far too many breakdowns than should be kosher but because they are rarely big names or have pretty horse people followings they basically get shrugged off. Like most everything else in life, without consequences you wont see a change in behavior or in this case fatal injuries.

Fair Chuck, and seriously I appreciate you taking the time and discussing this kind of stuff. It’s good to have an actual trainer, who makes himself overly accessible to anyone who wants to learn, or just talk horses. I think its admirable. I read your stuff on PA all the time in the ask a trainer thread, good stuff. Agree or disagree with you, you have an opinion and share it, its cool.