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Old 10-16-2013, 12:28 PM
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God I love the breeders cup...every one of these has a shot
Wittgenstein has a shot--really?

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Old 10-16-2013, 01:37 PM
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i like flat out, but i don't think i'd bet him in this race.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:53 PM
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A lot of speed in the Distaff.

Remember when Royal Delta had a mid-pack to stretch-running style back in her days for Lezcano?

Her best chance will be if she's able to revert back to that.
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:37 PM
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A lot of speed in the Distaff.

Remember when Royal Delta had a mid-pack to stretch-running style back in her days for Lezcano?

Her best chance will be if she's able to revert back to that.
has she passed a horse in the stretch the last two years?
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:50 PM
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has she passed a horse in the stretch the last two years?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K68fr0Ke_so

And the only reason she was so close to the early pace this race, was because it was a brutally slow pace.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:10 PM
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And the only reason she was so close to the early pace this race, was because it was a brutally slow pace.
I don't believe they are confident she can pass horses, else I highly doubt they would have sent her after On Fire Baby as aggressively as they did in the Personal Ensign. I would guess that, in retrospect, they wish they had sent her harder in the Beldame. She may be braver at a higher cruising speed.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:21 PM
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As you know, she stumbled at the start in the Beldame, and a horse to her inside received an overly aggressive ride to take the good rail away.

Just because a more aggressive ride would have been beneficial last time, shouldn't matter in regard to next time.

There are generally no guarantees when you try to change the running styles of horses, but she's a horse who always had a mid-pack type of running style until Mike Smith started to impose his will on her.

Based on the horses Kasept listed, I think they have to back off the pace and take first-run on Princess of Sylmar.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:57 PM
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And the only reason she was so close to the early pace this race, was because it was a brutally slow pace.
Ok in the last 23 months, my point was since she has aged she has lacked stretch punch to rally past horses.
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